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  • #92
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    :confused:
    So you are saying it's being downplayed. But you know it's being downplayed because the media and government are warning about it? ...
    [ + default daily reply : who/what/when/where/why/which ]
    confused.png It's only appears to be downplayed here (read previous posts), not really anywhere else. Comprende?

    Have you any view, that it isn't being downplayed here?
    If so: who/why/when/where/which/why etc etc etc.


  • #93
    Titclamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    Re Bill Gates and vaccines; there are clips of him seemingly linking vaccines and a reduction in population growth.

    https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_innovating_to_zero/transcript


  • #94
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

    'Some, various, most'

    You're sounding a bit vague, and you're the 1st person to bring up "the jews".

    Do you have a view of your own on "the jews" as you refer to, in relation to COVID19 feel free to explain.

    What about the Buddists, are they "involved" somehow.?

    This is getting a bit strange now, some folks (DohnJoe) are bringing up religions into this coronavirus situation, while at the same time, not even explaining why.
    Weirdly we only get: 'Some, various, most' (vague or what!).

    Yup, the Jews.


  • #95
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    Re Bill Gates and vaccines; there are clips of him seemingly linking vaccines and a reduction in population growth.
    This is a dishonest misrepresentation of what he says.

    Could you explain how this plays into conspiracy theories about corona virus?


  • #96
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »
    confused.png It's only appears to be downplayed here (read previous posts), not really anywhere else. Comprende?

    Have you any view, that it isn't being downplayed here?
    If so: who/why/when/where/which/why etc etc etc.
    Ok. Then what conspiracy theory are you proposing?

    Again your reply is very bizarre.


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  • #97
    Lord Fairlord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Lord Fairlord


    Titclamp wrote: »
    https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_innovating_to_zero/transcript

    Yeah at 4.29 in I think. It's not the only time he's made a link between the two publicly either.


  • #98
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Titclamp wrote: »
    Why ask so many questions when you don't want answers that suit you?
    Lol, this is fiunny.

    I've learned in the last day or two, the KingMob only replies to a single question with at least 5 or 7 of his own, a default trivial pointless exercise in time wasting, that is best ignored (and will be).


  • #99
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    Re Bill Gates and vaccines; there are clips of him seemingly linking vaccines and a reduction in population growth.

    "As further discussed in this piece, Gates later came to the conclusion that birth control was not the best approach to achieve the goal of slower population growth, instead realizing that — counterintuitively — a reduction in childhood mortality was the best way to limit population growth:"

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/


  • #100
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »
    Lol, this is fiunny.

    I've learned in the last day or two, the KingMob only replies to a single question with at least 5 or 7 of his own, a default trivial pointless exercise in time wasting, that is best ignored (and will be).

    Again, personal attacks when all I've been trying to do is get clarification of what the conspiracy theory being proposed actually is...


  • #101
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. Then what conspiracy theory are you proposing?
    Again your reply is very bizarre.
    Again your reply is very bizarre.

    Again (repeat question)
    Have. you. any. view, that. it. isn't. being. downplayed. here?

    (This has already been suggested as a conpsiracy. I.e. the downplay of the situation.
    Do. you. have. a. view. on. this, of. your. own?

    If you reply with another 5-7 questions and ignore this simple question,
    I'll assume you are an AI-bot who's function is only to ask batch questions only.


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  • #102
    Lord Fairlord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Lord Fairlord


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    "As further discussed in this piece, Gates later came to the conclusion that birth control was not the best approach to achieve the goal of slower population growth, instead realizing that — counterintuitively — a reduction in childhood mortality was the best way to limit population growth:"

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/

    That may be his favoured option but it is not the only clip where I have seen him linking vaccines and population.


  • #103
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again, personal attacks when all I've been trying to do is get clarification of what the conspiracy theory being proposed actually is...

    I don't think there is one being proposed


  • #104
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »
    Again your reply is very bizarre.

    Again (repeat question)
    Have. you. any. view, that. it. isn't. being. downplayed. here?

    If you reply with another 5-7 questions and ignore this simple question, I'll assume you are an AI-bot who's function is only to ask batch questions only.
    No, I don't believe the corona virus being downplayed here.
    Nor do I believe that a few posters "downplaying" it on a forum constitutes a conspiracy.

    Can you explain your conspiracy theory now please?


  • #105
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    I don't think there is one being proposed


    Do you think the situation is being downplayed?


  • #106
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    That may be his favoured option but it is not the only clip where I have seen him linking vaccines and population.
    Could you explain what you believe this this means?

    For example, do you believe that Bill Gates intends to use vaccines to kill people?


  • #107
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    No, I don't believe the corona virus being downplayed here.
    Nor do I believe that a few posters "downplaying" it on a forum constitutes a conspiracy.


    Disagree with both of your views on this.


  • #108
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    That may be his favoured option but it is not the only clip where I have seen him linking vaccines and population.

    He's suggesting that the birth rate is lower in societies with better healthcare systems, whereas in very poor societies people have a tendency to have more children due to high infant mortality rates (like we used to in the past)


  • #109
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »
    Disagree with both of your views on this.
    Ok. That's nice.
    So what conspiracy theory are you suggesting?


  • #110
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »
    Do you think the situation is being downplayed?

    lol


  • #111
    Titclamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    He's suggesting that the birth rate is lower in societies with better healthcare systems, whereas in very poor societies people have a tendency to have more children due to high infant mortality rates (like we used to in the past)

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/sep/18/the-african-youth-boom-whats-worrying-bill-gates


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  • #112
    Lord Fairlord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Lord Fairlord


    King Mob wrote: »
    Could you explain what you believe this this means?

    For example, do you believe that Bill Gates intends to use vaccines to kill people?

    No. I find it suspicious that he has linked vaccines more than once to population growth; he seems to be implying that they can have an affect on fertility rates.


  • #113
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    No. I find it suspicious that he has linked vaccines more than once to population growth; he seems to be implying that they can have an affect on fertility rates.

    I might be getting a bit off-topic here maybe, but would you say Bill Gates wants to use vaccines as some sort of sterilisation tool to reduce the population?


  • #114
    Lord Fairlord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Lord Fairlord


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    He's suggesting that the birth rate is lower in societies with better healthcare systems, whereas in very poor societies people have a tendency to have more children due to high infant mortality rates (like we used to in the past)

    In terms of correlation yes although not in terms of causation. You may well be right about what he means but it's something that deserves serious scrutiny.


  • #115
    Lord Fairlord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Lord Fairlord


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    I might be getting a bit off-topic here maybe, but would you say Bill Gates wants to use vaccines as some sort of sterilisation tool to reduce the population?

    I think that it's a possibility; I hope not of course.


  • #116
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    No. I find it suspicious that he has linked vaccines more than once to population growth; he seems to be implying that they can have an affect on fertility rates.
    Well no, that's not what he says at all.
    That's a dishonest misrepresentation that arises from silly conspiracy theories.

    He is not implying anything. You are inferring.
    Vaccines do not affect fertility rates.

    What he is saying and has been explained to you, with references, is that when populations receive better healthcare, the birthrate as a whole goes down due to the fact that people choose to have less children. They choose to have less children because less children die young.
    Fertility is not lessened.

    What part do you find suspicious and why?


  • #117
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    Neither conspiracy nor theory that the Open Society Foundation is subverting nations:
    https://eclj.org/ngos-and-the-judges-of-the-echr
    Part of this report goes highlights that there are multiple judges linked to the OSF and shows that there is a conflict of interest.

    Also, for anyone who wants to learn a bit about George Soros generally:
    https://listverse.com/2016/10/21/10-dark-secrets-of-george-soros/
    This is not a conspiracy site although it does occasionally cover them.

    Sure, it’s not a conspiracy site. I believe you.


  • #118
    Lord Fairlord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Lord Fairlord


    King Mob wrote: »
    Well no, that's not what he says at all.
    That's a dishonest misrepresentation that arises from silly conspiracy theories.

    He is not implying anything. You are inferring.
    Vaccines do not affect fertility rates.

    What he is saying and has been explained to you, with references, is that when populations receive better healthcare, the birthrate as a whole goes down due to the fact that people choose to have less children. They choose to have less children because less children die young.
    Fertility is not lessened.

    What part do you find suspicious and why?

    And as I said in another reply, causation and correlation are two different things; i.e. one may have a healthier society that still has a high fertility rate. I find the desire of a very wealthy individual for poor people to have fewer children suspicious.

    I'm not generally against vaccination technology but a vaccine could be created which might affect fertility even just completely unintentionally. People, including scientists, make mistakes.

    Anyway, I'm ill so I'm off for now.
    Have a nice day all.
    God bless


  • #119
    Lord Fairlord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Lord Fairlord


    Ipso wrote: »
    Sure, it’s not a conspiracy site. I believe you.

    If you actually looked at the website you would see that it is not a conspiracy site.

    Have a nice day.
    Gb


  • #120
    Titclamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    Lord Fairlord wrote: »
    And as I said in another reply, causation and correlation are two different things; i.e. one may have a healthier society that still has a high fertility rate. I find the desire of a very wealthy individual for poor people to have fewer children suspicious.

    I'm not generally against vaccination technology but a vaccine could be created which might affect fertility even just completely unintentionally. People, including scientists, make mistakes.

    Anyway, I'm ill so I'm off for now.
    Have a nice day all.
    God bless

    How can they say this virus affects fertility in men already

    Maybe its to cover up the rushed vaccine that comes out which is the real reason as there's obviously no time to check long term research on side effects if any.


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  • #121
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,743 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. That's nice.
    So what conspiracy theory are you suggesting?

    Isn't this like the Notre Dame conspiracy thread, pedantic/contrarian views with few or no conspiracy theories

    Perhaps it's the new trend


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