Extinction Rebellion Ireland

RHJ · 22-04-2019 12:10pm

Zorya wrote: »

We need, we need, we need...more rubbish...on the streets. Apparently.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4tK9DqXoAA6DXS.jpg

Do you have any proof that the protesters left any of that don't forget it was a sunny day on a bank holiday weekend so there would have been more than just the protesters in Dublin.

RHJ · 22-04-2019 12:12pm

gozunda wrote: »

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Thungberg was in London yesterday reciting her script and grown women protestors nearly wet themselves.

Flying all over the world again - all those emissions. Amazing that those kids calling on the rest of us to stop using fossil fuels are happy to jump on a plane to tell us that ...

Actually she rarely travels by plane instead she mostly travels by rail. Nice to see that you did your research before blindly criticising her.

gozunda · 22-04-2019 12:13pm

RHJ wrote: »

Actually she rarely travels by plane instead she mostly travels by rail. Nice to see that you did your research before blindly criticising her.

Fixed! My apologies! I should have said travelled by plane / train/ automobile! She and other sycophants are telling everyone else to give up using fossil fuels - while travelling the world. A bit ironic no?

And 'rarely travels by plane" equals never does it? Needs to practice what she preaches....

gozunda · 22-04-2019 12:26pm

RHJ wrote: »

Do you have any proof that the protesters left any of that don't forget it was a sunny day on a bank holiday weekend so there would have been more than just the protesters in Dublin.

First of all the Red Phone Box shows it was the same 'rebellion' lot in London.

And if you a take even a brief look - there is at least one extinction rebellion piece of merchandise in that pile. Proximity of protestors and pile of rubbish etc? - doubt the photographer is bull****ting tbh.

Mebuntu · 22-04-2019 12:28pm

Zorya wrote: »

We need, we need, we need...more rubbish...on the streets. Apparently.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4tK9DqXoAA6DXS.jpg

Just one of the many reasons why these full-of-themselves idiots are full-blown hypocrites. A friend of mine who was in London this past week says that on Waterloo Bridge the amount of rubbish (much of it plastic) and graffiti on public property (which someone has to be paid to get rid of) has to be seen to be believed.

RHJ · 22-04-2019 12:28pm

gozunda wrote: »

RHJ wrote: »

Actually she rarely travels by plane instead she mostly travels by rail. Nice to see that you did your research before blindly criticising her.

Fixed! My apologies! I should have said travelled by plane/train/ automobile! She and other sycophants are telling everyone else to give up using fossil fuels - while travelling the world. A bit ironic no?

And 'Rarely travels" equals never does it? Needs to practice what she preaches...

Depending on the European country many have quite a lot of their train lines electrified so hard total amount of carbon emissions are still low when compared to your average person

I don't believe she has ever said not to travel just to use more sustainable and less damaging modes.

RHJ · 22-04-2019 12:35pm

One question I have about the photo above is how many bins are provided in the local area? Perhaps if more were provided the above photo would not exist.

gozunda · 22-04-2019 12:35pm

RHJ wrote: »

Depending on the European country many have quite a lot of their train lines electrified so hard total amount of carbon emissions are still low when compared to your average person

I don't believe she has ever said not to travel just to use more sustainable and less damaging modes.

And do you believe all electricity is somehow magically carbon neutral - Seriously?

The more miles someone rocks up - the greater their carbon footprint. As said these are the ones preaching to the rest of us. They need to get a grip.

Mebuntu · 22-04-2019 12:35pm

RHJ wrote: »

I don't believe she has ever said not to travel just to use more sustainable and less damaging modes.

One of the other chief protesters claimed one of their main aims was to reach a situation whereby aircraft would fly "only in emergencies". That's the mindset you're dealing with here.

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-04-2019 12:39pm

RHJ wrote: »

One question I have about the photo above is how many bins are provided in the local area? Perhaps if more were provided the above photo would not exist.

So its the governments/councils fault for not providing enough bins?

If you go to a park or a beach and don't see a bin do you just leave your rubbish there? Personally i bag it up and take it with me until i either find a bin or it goes home with me to my own bin.

RHJ · 22-04-2019 12:40pm

gozunda wrote: »

RHJ wrote: »

Depending on the European country many have quite a lot of their train lines electrified so hard total amount of carbon emissions are still low when compared to your average person

I don't believe she has ever said not to travel just to use more sustainable and less damaging modes.

And do you believe all electricity is somehow magically carbon neutral - Seriously?

The more miles someone rocks up - the greater their carbon footprint. As said these are the ones preaching to the rest of us. They need to get a grip.

I never said current day electrical grids were carbon neutral and some countries do better than others with renewable power generation sources but by and large generating electricity in a power plant is less damaging than air travel.

RHJ · 22-04-2019 12:43pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

RHJ wrote: »

One question I have about the photo above is how many bins are provided in the local area? Perhaps if more were provided the above photo would not exist.

So its the governments/councils fault for not providing enough bins?

If you go to a park or a beach and don't see a bin do you just leave your rubbish there? Personally i bag it up and take it with me until i either find a bin or it goes home with me to my own bin.

Yes I do believe the council bare some fault for not providing enough bins plus the process didn't take place in a remote location it took place in the middle of a city where there should have been adequate bins for the disposal of rubbish provided.

Dakota Dan · 22-04-2019 12:43pm

RHJ wrote: »

One question I have about the photo above is how many bins are provided in the local area? Perhaps if more were provided the above photo would not exist.

If there aren’t enough bins or if they are overflowing you take your rubbish home with you and seeing that one of the things they are protesting about is plastic you’d think they’d have a bit more cop on.

gozunda · 22-04-2019 12:44pm

RHJ wrote: »

I never said current day electrical grids were carbon neutral and some countries do better than others with renewable power generation sources but by and large generating electricity in a power plant is less damaging than air travel.

Extinction rebellion are demanding the the UK and Ireland meet Zero emissions in the next few years. So unless Miss Thungberg gets on her home made wooden bicycle to go and preach to the great unwashed around the world she and others are being less than honest...

It remains fossil fuels still dominate electricity production worldwide. Some 70 % of all electricity generated in China Is produced by burning coal. Oh and China is the single biggest emitter of Green house gases globally. But no it's not a competition. Whether airplanes, or electricity produced from fossil fuels - they all produce emissions. But hey lets ignore that and tell everyone else what they should be doing ...

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-04-2019 12:50pm

RHJ wrote: »

Yes I do believe the council bare some fault for not providing enough bins plus the process didn't take place in a remote location it took place in the middle of a city where there should have been adequate bins for the disposal of rubbish provided.

Have you ever walked through a UK city? Theres bins everywhere, I live in a small English town and there are bins on every street every few hundred yards.

The fact is they are just hypocrites dumping their rubbish because they are too lazy to hold it until they find a bin.

RHJ · 22-04-2019 12:54pm

Its typical people find one small example of something wrong and try and use it to discredit an entire movement I've yet to hear any of the naysayers on here suggest any alternatives to tackling the impending disaster of human-caused climate change.

I take comfort in the fact that boards doesn't represent the majority of the country. I can see why it's fallen so far down in the rankings and become irrelevant for many.

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-04-2019 1:01pm

RHJ wrote: »

Its typical people find one small example of something wrong and try and use it to discredit an entire movement I've yet to hear any of the naysayers on here suggest any alternatives to tackling the impending disaster of human-caused climate change.

I take comfort in the fact that boards doesn't represent the majority of the country. I can see why it's fallen so far down in the rankings and become irrelevant for many.

You dont get it do you? They are protesting about climate change but by there own idiotic actions they are contributing to the very thing they claim they are trying to stop!

Ulysses Gaze · 22-04-2019 1:01pm

RHJ wrote: »

Its typical people find one small example of something wrong and try and use it to discredit an entire movement I've yet to hear any of the naysayers on here suggest any alternatives to tackling the impending disaster of human-caused climate change.

I take comfort in the fact that boards doesn't represent the majority of the country. I can see why it's fallen so far down in the rankings and become irrelevant for many.

Go Nuclear for our main energy needs.

Ulysses Gaze · 22-04-2019 1:05pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You dont get it do you? They are protesting about climate change but by there own idiotic actions they are contributing to the very thing they claim they are trying to stop!

Boardman, the 21 year old Middle Class "Socialist", is one of the main figureheads of ER in the UK.

He said we should only use planes for emergencies....whilst himself jetting off on Skiing trips and tourist trips to places like Pisa.

And people wonder why we can't take these clowns seriously?

BarryD2 · 22-04-2019 1:10pm

gozunda wrote: »

And do you believe all electricity is somehow magically carbon neutral - Seriously?

The more miles someone rocks up - the greater their carbon footprint. As said these are the ones preaching to the rest of us. They need to get a grip.

Quite agree with you, there's more than a fair bit of hypocrisy and delusion evident in many of these protests.

People in rural Ireland need to be watchful, there's every possibility that this government will seize upon what they regard as popular sentiment and start heaping carbon taxes on motor fuels, coal, heating oil etc. This whilst at the same contracting services in rural areas and obliging citizens to drive further to access them.

When I see industrial wind machines spread around Dublin and in Dublin Bay, off Malahide and Dalkey etc., then I'll begin to to appreciate that city dwellers are prepared to pay some sort of price. Instead of shunting their insatiable demands for power and water onto rural areas.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Go Nuclear for our main energy needs.

It may be a practical option but not a popular one. In fact, through the inter connectors we are already using nuclear power I think. So a nuclear station in Meath say?

Dakota Dan · 22-04-2019 1:13pm

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Boardman, the 21 year old Middle Class "Socialist", is one of the main figureheads of ER in the UK.

He said we should only use planes for emergencies....whilst himself jetting off on Skiing trips and tourist trips to places like Pisa.

And people wonder why we can't take these clowns seriously?

The protest in Cork was organised by an 18 year old and she thinks the drought last year is positive proof of man made climate change. I pointed it out to her that we had worse droughts before her lifetime and that a drought is weather not climate but she still can’t grasp it.

Dakota Dan · 22-04-2019 1:14pm

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Go Nuclear for our main energy needs.

Half the nuclear power stations in the US are losing money.

Brain Whinge · 22-04-2019 1:34pm

Not one of those clowns protesting would be willing to make the sacrifices that might make a difference.

Hulk Hands · 22-04-2019 2:00pm

Reading this thread is mental

I thought not believing Climate Change existed was just something clowns like Donald Trump or Michael Healy Ray said every so often to get attention. I didn't realise scores of these muppets actually existed

gozunda · 22-04-2019 2:07pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Reading this thread is mental

I thought not believing Climate Change existed was just something clowns like Donald Trump or Michael Healy Ray said every so often to get attention. I didn't realise scores of these muppets actually existed

People will believe what they want. It's not so much whether anyone agrees with the current zeitgeist or otherwise, but that those leading the protests are little more than naive idealists with little grasp of the reality of global problems.

sk8erboii · 22-04-2019 2:35pm

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Boardman, the 21 year old Middle Class "Socialist", is one of the main figureheads of ER in the UK.

He said we should only use planes for emergencies....whilst himself jetting off on Skiing trips and tourist trips to places like Pisa.

And people wonder why we can't take these clowns seriously?

Ah yes. You can only be an eco-activist if you dont leave your town.

Get your head out your arse man. People who appreciate nature do so because they go surfing/skiing/skydiving/rock climbing/hiking

padd b1975 · 22-04-2019 2:46pm

Woke Hogan wrote: »

That's it exactly.

As per usual this thread is full of the usual brainless comments from the "ordineddy daycent worrikers" sneering at anyone genuinely trying to make a difference. Sitting there in their cocoon of nescience, content everything will be alright so long as they have their ****e three bedroomed house, a Ford Focus and tablets for their fat overindulged kids.

Climate change is happening and our species is racing towards extinction. Ignorance will not be bliss when it catches up and your grandchildren will be fleeing refugees from landwars or ****ting their ****ing guts out from all of the plastic in the oceans.

We need protests. We need to disrupt traffic and the Luas. We need to act now or the human species will be a memory in a few centuries. We need blood on the streets.

Calm down there horse.

Spark up a joss stick or something before your BP goes into the red.

padd b1975 · 22-04-2019 2:49pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ah yes. You can only be an eco-activist if you dont leave your town.

Get your head out your arse man. People who appreciate nature do so because they go surfing/skiing/skydiving/rock climbing/hiking

"Do as I say, not as I do" merchants have always struggled with credibility.

EG. AL Gore.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 22-04-2019 3:15pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ah yes. You can only be an eco-activist if you dont leave your town.

Get your head out your arse man. People who appreciate nature do so because they go surfing/skiing/skydiving/rock climbing/hiking

But they fly to do it. While demanding flight be curtailed for the masses.

Do as I say not as I do is not going to work for climate change. If we are going to restrict air travel let’s ration it, not tax it.

riffmongous · 22-04-2019 3:24pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

But they fly to do it. While demanding flight be curtailed for the masses.

Do as I say not as I do is not going to work for climate change. If we are going to restrict air travel let’s ration it, not tax it.

But if they bring about any policy change those few 1/100 s of a flight will pay themselves back a million fold

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