Should wolves be reintroduced to Ireland?

LionelNashe · 09-09-2019 8:43pm

daheff wrote: »

and when the wolves run out of deer....who do you think will be coming into the towns looking for food?

I think the people of killarney would prefer to face a deer than a wolf.

If the wolves start running out of deer, which is very unlikely because there are 10s of thousands of them, then we cull a few wolves.

Markcheese · 09-09-2019 9:28pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have feck all forested land, for roaming wolves no?

Between scrub and forest I'd say they'd by...

Black Swan · 10-09-2019 11:48pm

The question is, what environmental advantage would be served by the reintroduction of wolves in Ireland?

mzungu · 15-09-2019 8:38pm

Black Swan wrote: »

The question is, what environmental advantage would be served by the reintroduction of wolves in Ireland?

The environmental argument for Ireland is that "the presence of an apex predator can have a massively beneficial trickle-down effect on an ecosystem – as documented in Yellowstone in the US, where wolves were brought back in the mid-1990s."

Link: https://www.thejournal.ie/reintroduce-wolves-ireland-poll-4764310-Aug2019/

I doubt there is much chance of it happening.

Fathom · 18-09-2019 1:07am

mzungu wrote: »

The environmental argument for Ireland is that "the presence of an apex predator can have a massively beneficial trickle-down effect on an ecosystem – as documented in Yellowstone in the US, where wolves were brought back in the mid-1990s."

Yellowstone is a wildlife park reserve. Not an area dominated by domesticated animal farms for human consumption.

[Deleted User] · 01-10-2019 3:36pm

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/1001/1079433-wolves/

Would love to see it, but can't see how it's feasible.

mzungu · 02-10-2019 10:30pm

Chinese whospers wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/1001/1079433-wolves/

Would love to see it, but can't see how it's feasible.

Indeed, the time has long passed for that.

Fathom · 05-10-2019 6:34pm

Humans replaced wolves in Irish food chain.

Beechwoodspark · 06-10-2019 10:10am

Reports this morning that our esteemed Taoiseach made a reference he’d be sooner bringing wolves back to Ireland than having sf in govt.

Pretty disappointing he is seeking to drag politics into what is an ecological issue. Wolves SHOULD be reintroduced. No need to do cheap political jibes about it.

[Deleted User] · 06-10-2019 10:16am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Wolves SHOULD be reintroduced.

Yeah, what could go wrong. :rolleyes:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/02/belgiums-first-sighted-wolf-in-a-century-feared-killed-by-hunters

#stupidideas

Wailin · 06-10-2019 10:24am

Can someone explain to me how this would be even possible in this country? There's no wilderness and farmers have grazing rights on the open hills and mountains so Wolves wouldn't last a few years before being wiped out.

Time to get with the real world, dreamers. As much as I'd love such a thing, in this country it's just not feasible. Look at the re-introduction of the eagles ffs!

The chan chan man · 06-10-2019 10:25am

Sure. Lets throw in a few crocodiles and lions while we’re at it

Fathom · 09-10-2019 6:55pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Wolves SHOULD be reintroduced.

Not practical.

paleoperson · 09-10-2019 6:57pm

No, and it's a stupid idea.

Black Swan · 11-10-2019 8:29pm

Nostalgia; not science. A sentimental longing for the past.

John_Rambo · 11-10-2019 8:34pm

paleoperson wrote: »

No, and it's a stupid idea.

Paleo person, you domesticated them!

Black Swan wrote: »

Nostalgia; not science. A sentimental longing for the past.

Yeah, you're right. I'd love it, but for reasons I've stated on this thread, it won't and can't happen. Stayed in a part of Spain with an active European wolf pack. They were incredibly shy, never saw one but the farmers were going nuts over it.

Fathom · 11-10-2019 10:08pm

Want wolves? Cause to visit places still natural to them.

mzungu · 18-10-2019 9:03pm

Fathom wrote: »

Want wolves? Cause to visit places still natural to them.

Very true Fathom.

Graces7 · 08-02-2023 12:38pm

A wolf , years ago now, ran across the road ahead of me, in remote Kerry. After some inquriies it emerged that a man had permission to keep them BUT not running free... This was many years ago now, before I moved elsewhere. Wonderful sight it was - but the farmers would not allow it of course

[Deleted User] · 08-02-2023 12:41pm

I can only imagine the posh Dublin visitors to Wicklow (the ones that take the jeeps out in the snow and need rescuing ) crying when they see the wolves rip the deer apart 😂😂

Graces7 · 08-02-2023 8:45pm

See

Home - Wild Ireland | Wildlife Park

corks finest · 08-02-2023 8:49pm

They never left, currently residing in Leinster HSE,blue variant v dangerous, especially the she wolf in charge of the pack

whisky_galore · 08-02-2023 8:55pm

On the continent, people co exist with wolves, wild boar, bears even.

Here, apart from tiny isolated scraps of national park, there is literally nowhere for wolves to go. So unless you rewild vast swathes of land it's completely pointless reintroducing wolves.

Graces7 · 18-02-2023 10:09am

How about the smaller uninhabited islands eg West Coast? No idea if wolves can swim well...

893bet · 18-02-2023 10:33am

And we drop over food to the island Jurassic park style?

The level of stupidity in this thread is high and also full of “nimby”. There are a million other things that could be discussed that would be a better use of resources for the environment etc.

The advantage to this thread though is reminding the average person how **** stupid Eamonn Ryan is.

Markcheese · 19-02-2023 8:28am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120256353#Comment_120256353

A pack of wolves would need a huge territory to hunt , on any offshore Irish island they'd be a zoo animal being fed daily ,

Graces7 · 05-03-2023 11:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/111485970#Comment_111485970

Yes and without accepting that Ireland, especially rural Ireland, has changed exponientially since wolves were here. Which is why they are no longer here. It would not be safe, for us or for the wolves. Apart from eg Wild Ireland in Donegal..

Explore Wild Ireland - Wild Ireland | Wildlife Park

and maybe an uninhabited island, which we still have. Things change and we need to accept that.

Capt'n Midnight · 05-03-2023 11:41am

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/02/hundreds-of-lynx-to-be-hunted-in-sweden-following-biggest-ever-wolf-cull

We could try a few of these.

Big enough to take down deer but small enough not to be a serious threat to humans. (Irish wolves of old had a bad reputation compared to others)

We have a small fraction of the forest cover that the rest of Europe has. And much of it is lifeless commercial conifers rather than the wildlife friendly stuff.

Graces7 · 06-03-2023 6:21am

Islands have prey. eg hares thrive and breed. One of my cats came home with a headless hare and I am sure he did not kill or decapitate it. And maybe wolves would deal with the mink that some eejit released nearby And even with feeding them at least they are living here, safely. Well worth a try. And like the Wild Ireland venture, a valid venture ...

The Wolves Return to Ireland - (wildireland.org)

Graces7 · 06-03-2023 6:54am

Over and out from me on this.

Far too much negativity ....

Were I able I would dearly love to visit Wild Ireland. Those folk are doing something very valid and wonderful. And realistic.

Have a lovely day!!!!

Should wolves be reintroduced to Ireland?

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