PHIL HOGAN NEEDS TO RESIGN.

elperello wrote: »

The first link is to Tony Connelly on what PH might have been trying to say.

https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1298965047000039424

Second link is to the clip itself.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5828791/phil-hogan-gardai-wouldnt-stopped-him-phone-politician/

Not taking sides but there does appear to be a case for thinking he misspoke.

Have a look/listen and see what you think.

Listening to that, it sounds like he is refuting the idea that the Gardaí wouldn't have stopped him if they'd known who he was.
It sounds like to me he is saying the Gardaí stopped him and did their job regardless of who he was, and he is commending them on doing their job well.

To be fair to Phil here, he was being willfully misunderstood by people quick to pillory him.

By far the more serious issue I would rather see pursued is why do we have laws for handling phones while driving if the Gardaí are inclined to overlook indiscretions here and there.

It should be the same for every driver, I think that is a fairly unanimous opinion of the public as far as I can tell.

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Listening to that, it sounds like he is refuting the idea that the Gardaí wouldn't have stopped him if they'd known who he was.
It sounds like to me he is saying the Gardaí stopped him and did their job regardless of who he was, and he is commending them on doing their job well.

To be fair to Phil here, he was being willfully misunderstood by people quick to pillory him.

By far the more serious issue I would rather see pursued is why do we have laws for handling phones while driving if the Gardaí are inclined to overlook indiscretions here and there.

It should be the same for every driver, I think that is a fairly unanimous opinion of the public as far as I can tell.

I'm surprised how little discussion there was about what PH really said or meant to say.

Can't see him being stupid enough to intentionally have said that the guards wouldn't have touched him if they knew he was a commissioner.

As for Garda discretion that's another matter.

I suppose we all support it when we benefit from being let off and condemn it when someone we don't like is the beneficiary.

Looking at how judge Seamus Woulfe has managed to avoid resignation and the obvious disregard for the distancing rules at RTÉ I have to say that I am of the opinion that the treatment of Phil Hogan in all of this was wrong.

I remember thinking at the time that forcing his resignation was more about his personality and how he came across in the media coloured how people perceived him than the actual details of what he did or didn’t know and the effects of a resignation on his job and ability to bounce back.

You could say that RTÉ personnel are private citizens but RTÉ is the national broadcaster and paid over and above the norms to set those standards and bring those not meeting them to task.

Even looking at how Leo Varadkar managed to get out of his controversy in recent weeks and Michael Martin defended him. Leo and Martin made not one but two statements against Phil Hogan, the second one when Ursula Von Der Leyen was considering the details - they essentially pulled the rug from under her and didn’t allow her make a proper balanced assessment of the issue. I would imagine that Ursula was none too impressed by Michael and Martin jumping the gun and it prob didn’t help us in getting the new role for Mairead McGuinness.

jimd2 wrote: »

I remember thinking at the time that forcing his resignation was more about his personality and how he came across in the media coloured how people perceived him than the actual details of what he did or didn’t know and the effects of a resignation on his job and ability to bounce back.

This is quite the re-writing of history, Hogans resignation had absolutely nothing to do with his personality or how he is perceived by the public in Ireland. As an EU Commissioner Hogan wasnt even accountable to the Irish public so their opinion didnt matter a jot. He lied to the Taoiseach and the Tanaiste and he lied to his boss Ursula von der Leyen. When given several opportunities to tell the truth he lied some more. He got caught out in these lies and eventually von der Leyen no longer had confidence in him and that was that, at no point was she ever taking Irish public opinion into account.

Tell me, in what occupation could you tell bare faced lies to your boss and get away with it?

It was pure hysteria and the great unwashed loved their power...indeed they were intoxicated by it. Fair play to Seamus for refusing to be shafted by the Chief Justice who tried to do a number on him.

tayto lover wrote: »

I said years ago on Boards threads that there should be no political say on who gets to be Garda Commissioners, Judges and Army Chiefs.

Over the last few years I’ve been proven right.

Yes in 100 years as a State, we have had an excellent judiciary and police force. Look elsewhere and we shine. Not perfect but we are not too bad. So all in all, I don’t personally believe you have been proven right.

I see this asshole wants some compensation., Greedy scumbag cúnt

That won't work for him. He resigned did he not. Even if the golfgate hotel event is now not proved illegal, Hogan was caught out breaking the covid regs at the time. He travelled here there and everywhere for no valid reason during the strict lockdown.

I hope he loses his shirt seeking compensation.

Constructive dismissal

Trickle Hogan is 100% guilty in the court of public opinion. Nobody believes the web of lies surrounding his tour of Ireland during restrictions. He should just shut up and move on.