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14-07-2019, 18:07   #346
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Reduction in illness etc :


https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8446



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22302628



RESULTS:
Over 1100 wood stoves were replaced with new lower emission wood stoves or other heating sources.

Ambient PM(2.5) was 27.6% lower in the winters following the changeout programme compared with baseline winters.

There was a 26.7% (95% CI 3.0% to 44.6%) reduced odds of reported wheeze for a 5 μg/m(3) decrease in average winter PM(2.5).

Lower ambient PM(2.5) was also associated with reduced odds for reported respiratory infections, including cold (25.4% (95% CI 7.6% to 39.7%)), bronchitis (54.6% (95% CI 24.2% to 72.8%)), influenza (52.3% (95% CI 42.5% to 60.5%)) and throat infection (45.1% (95% CI 29.0% to 57.6%)).

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14-07-2019, 18:25   #347
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Ha? Talk about knee jerk BS.
Total French connection to you too. I'm currently growning ash in pots. I have a farm road lined in em. Many old., more young. Oak planted here also by me, never had oak here before. We felled about a dozen 10 years ago that were about 20ft in circumference. I have a cypress that d auld fella recons was d same size when was a teenager as it is now. I have a fine.tradition of growning trees here. The entitled opinions on people here is gone beyond shocking.
A55 h0les telling others what to do.
And d rest seem to be brain washed by what ever boll0x they read on Twitter or similar.
If I want to burn oak ( just cut a load for d wild fella) , guess what I'll do ?
Buy I'm d lad that gets grief even though I.ve planted more trees than most
Jesus wept.
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14-07-2019, 18:26   #348
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The stench of self righteousness off the Dublin centric comments is certainly overwhelming anyway lol..

It's like ye have never have left the Pale at all ...
I can think of worse stenches, hence why I stick to the cities.
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14-07-2019, 18:42   #349
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If ever I was in a town or city.. air stinks of exhaust fumes... and the noise.. ... no one greeting you or smiling.... you come back feeling mucky... everyone rushing around, traffic trying to mow you down. Car park attendants like vultures..

rush, rush, rush,,,,

Out here; peace and pure air. Folk greet and smile. Services are fine; access to medical care, air ambulance at need which is far faster than by road..An Post, buses when you need them. Ferries too..Shops. as we have the same chains as cities.. Internet by small local excellent servers.

Cities are OK to visit maybe once a year but to live there.. No way.
Fair play, they don't suit you. They do suit a large proportion of the people in the country though. Cronyism and fraud is worse in rural areas.
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14-07-2019, 18:44   #350
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Turf should be phased out and certain areas protected. Don't think all of it needs to be but a large part or prats should not be allowed to be harvested.

It's either that or we accept that Ireland is fine losing the bogs.
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14-07-2019, 19:44   #352
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Fair play, they don't suit you. They do suit a large proportion of the people in the country though. Cronyism and fraud is worse in rural areas.
Im not saying it doesn't happen in Rural areas but its equally as rife in Dublin \ Cork, Galway and Limerick. And at a far higher level.

The Drumcondra mafia are far from unique and its not confined to politics..
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14-07-2019, 21:26   #353
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So if all families in rural Ireland keep building one offs on the land surely after a while it will get out of hand?
The whole country would end up looking like the below

So what? Most of the county is not a tourist attraction and the only people who see it are the locals. Houses are only along roads too so the vast majority of the county side is untouched it’s only the small percentage of land along roads that have houses.

There is vast areas of the county where houses will never be built as it’s just not suitable and many if these areas are the tourist attractions so it’s not having any impact of “views” for the most parts. There is zero tourists going to drive down the narrow road where I’m building my house, the only people who will see it are the people who also live on the road or have land in past my house (which is us and two other people).

There should absolutely always be the right to get planning and build on your own land and it will be political suicide to even attempt to stop this, there would be war pure and simple. Planning is already limited to people with local needs for the most part, you wouldn’t have a hope of getting planning permission where I am applying but it’s going to be no issue at all for me as I easily tick all the boxes.

People are rambling on about a housing crisis yet the likes of me and many of my friends who are building at home on our own family land are generating housing for ourselves, houses that would not exist otherwise and this is doubled by the fact we aren’t going to be taking up a house in some poky estate somewhere leaving a house free for someone else to buy and live in.

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Cronyism and fraud is worse in rural areas.
Ever heard of Maria Bailey?
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Fair play, they don't suit you. They do suit a large proportion of the people in the country though. Cronyism and fraud is worse in rural areas.




Proof? Evil exists everywhere if you choose to participate. which is optional. A very poor argument indeed!

There is deep kindness out here, humanity, realism and a sense of humour . and the sheer loveliness....

"damn with faint praise.. assent with civil leer..."
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Ha? Talk about knee jerk BS.
Total French connection to you too. I'm currently growning ash in pots. I have a farm road lined in em. Many old., more young. Oak planted here also by me, never had oak here before. We felled about a dozen 10 years ago that were about 20ft in circumference. I have a cypress that d auld fella recons was d same size when was a teenager as it is now. I have a fine.tradition of growning trees here. The entitled opinions on people here is gone beyond shocking.
A55 h0les telling others what to do.
And d rest seem to be brain washed by what ever boll0x they read on Twitter or similar.
If I want to burn oak ( just cut a load for d wild fella) , guess what I'll do ?
Buy I'm d lad that gets grief even though I.ve planted more trees than most
Jesus wept.
alleluia! well done!
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15-07-2019, 06:46   #357
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Turf should be phased out and certain areas protected. Don't think all of it needs to be but a large part or prats should not be allowed to be harvested.

It's either that or we accept that Ireland is fine losing the bogs.
Look up preserved bog.. or take a trip out to North May o then say this
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Ash is an important tree for wildlife. It is very long lived, enabling it to support many specialist deadwood species such as the lesser stag beetle and hole nesting birds such as owls and woodpeckers.

Ash woodland has a light open canopy which encourages a rich ground flora of dogs mercury, bluebells and ramsons. Often it is accompanied by a hazel understorey.

The alkaline bark of ash supports numerous epiphytic lichens and bryophytes and also attracts snails. Its leaves provide food for many moth species including the barred-toothed striped, the coronet, the brick, the centre-barred sallow and the privet hawkmoth. Birds such as the bullfinch eat ash seeds.

Upland mixed ash woodlands are a priority habitat under the UK Biodiversity Action Plan and form one of the richest habitats for wildlife in the uplands. They support many rare woodland flowers such as dark red helleborine, Jacob’s ladder, autumn crocus, lady’s slipper orchid and threatened butterflies such a the high brown fritillary, the dingy skipper and the grayling.

http://www.treeandlandscape.ie/Tree-...excelsior.html
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Here's one.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...hp?p=110561987

Plenty more if you search.
Now why would i waste a lovely summer oceanside morning doing that! Not interested
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So if all families in rural Ireland keep building one offs on the land surely after a while it will get out of hand?
The whole country would end up looking like the below

Would be good t o ID that photo.. if it is really Ireland very rare and one place seems to fit
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