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R0C · 15-06-2016 11:22pm

After a long evening of digging through other parish registers, and finding a marriage and another child for this couple, I can confirm the surname is definitely Leonard.

Due to it being incorrectly transcribed as "Lyon" for many years in some online records, I have had an incorrect name (and line) in my family tree for my GGreat grandmother. Confirming and connecting this dot has opened up a whole new line for me, so thanks for the help!

I can easily see why past transcribers were confused, particularly when the sponsor is Lyons.

Hermy · 16-06-2016 10:07am

Not from the NLI collection but rather than start a new thread can anyone tell me what's the word before November?
It's a 1909 baptism from Bangor Erris in Mayo.

shanew · 16-06-2016 10:57am

looks like L.tt.l. to me - do you have any other entries for letter and context comparison ?

I'm thinking maybe a placename...

Alan259 · 16-06-2016 12:19pm

Hermy wrote: »

Not from the NLI collection but rather than start a new thread can anyone tell me what's the word before November?
It's a 1909 baptism from Bangor Erris in Mayo.

Looks like [font=arial, sans-serif]'settled[/font][font=arial, sans-serif]'[/font][font=arial, sans-serif] to me. I have came across it once or twice in my own parish. I think it was when the parents of the baby or the couple getting married didn[/font][font=arial, sans-serif]'t pay the fee to the priest straight away but payed it at a later date. In this case November 22nd 1909.[/font]

tabbey · 16-06-2016 1:03pm

I guess Alan is right, at first I thought it was little, but could not explain the d. Therefore, settling the ten shilling bill seems to be the answer.

This raises another issue that has long angered me, ten bob was probably more than many labourers earned per week in Erris in 1909.
Where my paternal line ancestors were having baptisms in the 1840s, pre famine, the standard "offering" seemed to be two shillings or 2/2. At the time 8d per day was the full rate paid to farm labourers, or four shillings for a full week's pay, if lucky enough to have a full week. Labourers were expected to pay at least half a week's pay for a baptism, a case of extortion, in my view.

Hermy · 16-06-2016 7:42pm

That's settled - thanks for the replies.

Deadly Delta · 04-07-2016 7:29am

Hi All,

What are your thoughts on this piece from Clonrush in Co. Clare? It's a tough one, quite faded.

I'm looking for someone specific and think this might be related but wanted to see what you guys think first. Basically any names or words on the paper would be helpful.

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Cheers

Hermy · 04-07-2016 10:22am

Here's Ancestry's copy of that image if it helps.

pinkypinky · 04-07-2016 2:32pm

I can make out John & Honor Hogan and Ned Ryan on different lines.
Above Honor looks like W Brien
Below Honor the same word Brien and then further over ....Ryan B Cleary

Hermy · 19-07-2016 9:32am

About two thirds down on the left hand page I'm wondering if anyone can make out the date for the baptism of Ellen Duffy among the scribbles?

pedroeibar1 · 19-07-2016 9:53am

Perhaps May 10th ?

Hermy · 19-07-2016 9:59am

I think it's May 19th but that second digit could be a 4 or a 9 so I can't decide.

Jellybaby1 · 19-07-2016 10:02am

The one before it is the 13th, and I'm guessing the one after Ellen is possibly the 14th. It looks to me that Ellen's date is the 14th but I could be wrong.

Hermy · 19-07-2016 10:08am

Her husband's baptism which gives details of their marriage in New York says she was baptised May 19th 1887 (?) and other records give her date of birth as May 15th or 20th.

pinkypinky · 19-07-2016 11:28am

Looks like 19th to me

montgo · 31-07-2016 4:46pm

I came across this Ryan/Quin marriage dated 30 December (3rd entry on left hand page). I am doubtful about the name of the townland. It looks like Ashgrove or similar but the only townland with an O'Brien (weaver) was in Ashfield (not even a real townland).

Any other idea? thanks

KildareFan · 01-08-2016 12:43am

Looks like Ashgrove.

oceanclub · 03-08-2016 8:28pm

Got the free 14 day sub to FindMyPast (saw that it has all the parish records transcribed) and was able to find my grandfather's birth in 1877 (both him and my father had children at a late age).

Here's what looks the entry;

Can anyone make out information not in the transcript? Is the line below godparents? (Looks like Thomas & Margaret Moloney?)

EDIT: Actually RootsIreland does list the godparents, while FindMyPast doesn't. Strange they omitted it, lack of time I guess.

First name(s) Paul
Last name Molony
Birth year -
Baptism year 1877
Baptism date 11 Apr 1877
Residence Clare
Parish Murroe, Boher and Abington
Alternative parish names Abington, Boher, Murroe, Murroe and Boher
Diocese Cashel and Emly
County Limerick, Tipperary
Country Ireland
Father's first name(s) Paul
Father's last name Molony
Mother's first name(s) Joanna
Mother's last name Wixted

tabbey · 03-08-2016 8:46pm

Yes, Sponsors Thomas & Margaret Moloney.

pinkypinky · 04-08-2016 11:29am

Mod note: thread merged. Please post these requests into this thread.

VirginiaB · 05-08-2016 12:26am

Any guesses on the first name of the father of the groom here? Marriage #239. Groom is Jacobus [James] Healy and bride is Bridget Sullivan. It's been a total puzzlement on another forum I'm on. Thanks.

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634297#page/22/mode/1up

mickmackey1 · 05-08-2016 1:50am

Not sure, but the cert would solve it:

SR District/Reg Area - Caherciveen

Marriage of JAMES HEALY
in 1877

SR District/Reg Area Caherciveen
Returns Year 1877
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 10
Returns Page No 26

Marriage of BRIDGET SULLIVAN
in 1877

SR District/Reg Area Caherciveen
Returns Year 1877
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 10
Returns Page No 26

VirginiaB · 05-08-2016 5:09am

Do marriage certs of that time period have parents' names? It's a good idea if they do. Thanks for the reply.

spurious · 05-08-2016 5:23am

They should have the father's names anyway.

pinkypinky · 05-08-2016 9:22am

VirginiaB: marriage certs always have fathers names, unless someone is illegitimate. Mothers names added in the 1960s.

KildareFan · 05-08-2016 2:09pm

Looks like Magistri to me, latin for Master. His father wasn't the school master by any chance?

VirginiaB · 08-08-2016 7:18am

It does look like Magistri but that seems odd. No idea about the schoolmaster possibility.

Pinkypinky, thank you for the info about parents' names on marriage certs. Wonder why mothers' names were so late to the party. Tho I looked at my own--church and state in NY--and parents' names on neither. NY state had them on marriage certs in the 19c and that has led to some major discoveries. Useful info for siblings who stayed in Ireland as it would bring you a generation further back via a sibling who emigrated.

pinkypinky · 08-08-2016 9:53am

I don't want to derail this thread too much but it's just a simple old fashioned patriarchy issue. Never occurred to them that putting mothers' names would be relevant. They took off fathers' occupation at the same time.

tabbey · 08-08-2016 8:27pm

KildareFan wrote: »

Looks like Magistri to me, latin for Master. His father wasn't the school master by any chance?

Or was he (even less common) a magistrate?

oceanclub · 11-08-2016 1:13pm

Hi there,

Would love help with this:
http://i.imgur.com/bsvb4Wo.png

Date looks like 16 January 1868. For place of birth; is that word "Ballandra?" Google search throws up nothing Wexford related. (I assume other word is "Kilrush".)

For maiden name, is it "Crineen"?

For informant, "Margaret Bacon"?

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