Twitter removing "master", "slave", and "blacklist" to be more inclusi

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

I'm very niggardly. I only spend money when necessary.

Edgy.

Deleted User wrote: »

What part are you asking for evidence for?

There are more slaves now that ever before, and they are mostly owned by their own race.

Asians growing weed in farms in the UK are owned by Asian gangs. Eastern European prostitutes in the US are owned by Eastern European gangs. African slaves in the Congo are owned by Africans. Asians catching shrimp off Thailand are owned by Asians.

If you think this is hysteria, I can tell you it's not. The last few years have just been token efforts picking at low-hanging fruit just to look good, be it companies, or individuals on social media. There is almost no actual effort made to combat slavery even though it's the hot topic of the year. Most people seem to think it disappeared when the US ended it. I think it's terrible that people are being convinced of this.

There are more slaves now that ever before, and they are mostly owned by their own race.

Have you evidence for this?

Asians growing weed in farms in the UK are owned by Asian gangs. Eastern European prostitutes in the US are owned by Eastern European gangs. African slaves in the Congo are owned by Africans. Asians catching shrimp off Thailand are owned by Asians.

This is nonsense, this is criminal activity, slavery and the subjugation of primarily Black people was legally and systematically organised and overseen by legal institutions.

MFPM wrote: »

Why is it 'stupid', you've used the term twice but haven't explained why?

It's stupid to change these terms as they are commonly used in I.T and most engineers will be accustomed to them, if they are forbidden (I dont know that they are forbidden from use in Twitter but just randomly guessing here) then that will be a big change for those engineers who have used them throughout all their careers and will cause them to be less productive as a result as they will need to come up with new terminology to describe whatever master/slave described in Twitter's infrastructure and what happens if someone is building code and forgets that the terms are banned, they will have to rebuild their code without the terms.


An analogy would be in a professional kitchen where a team of chefs is working, one of them was a stabbing victim and the term "knife" upsets them so the chefs can no longer say "knife", can you imagine the confusion this would cause. The term itself has been used forever in the kitchen and in this context the word "knife" isn't related to stabbing or violence apart from the tangential link.


Thats my take anyway, I should have said "In my opinion its stupid", maybe others feel differently.

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/07/george-floyd-twitter-abandons-master-slave-and-blacklist.html

Replacing the terms could cost millions and take months, experts say.


Loads of sites say it will cost millions.

Doesn't say much for their software engineering practices if such a simple change costs millions to implement.

Stark wrote: »

FWIW, AWS replaced the terms master and slave with terms like "primary" and "replica" quite some time ago.

No-one got upset from what I recall.

And the world didn’t crumble?

Master and slave are pretty sh*t terms really.

It's hard to Google troubleshooting stuff.

Server and Client work better.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you think I'm upset?

Not a fan of this whole "Oh are you upset?" "Are you triggered?" trend these days if someone looks at a story like this and thinks it's stupid. I'm allowed to have opinions on what is going on in the world and it does not mean I'm upset.

Well, the way you phrased your OP including calling the guy who spearheaded the idea a “worthless cùnt” made it seem like you were indeed quite upset and more so than the situation really warranted.

While this change announced by Twitter has zero bearing on me whatsoever, it is indicitive of todays disingenuous apologist society.

Change is good, particularly meaningful or neccessary change. This however smells either like futureproof arse covering (incase someone gets offended) or an act of PC grandstanding.

Companies are breaking their necks under pressure in efforts to appear to become more "inclusive" due to the current environment. If they were being honest, their motivations for doing so is primarily to preserve their brand, to mitigate criticism and to keep the money coming in. While that is ok in essence, realistically they are profiteering from racism.

If they actually gave a fcuk about acting in efforts to opposing racism, they would have done it years ago...not now when they feel expected to do so while capitalising on a contentious topic. They could have introduced it internally with no need for a public announcement....but that doesnt give them the kudos.

Were programmers up in arms over the last number of decades while using this terminology and demanding change?

As other posters have said "how does it affect you" etc...thats the point. It doesnt, its a populist sham that will change fcuk all except pressuring other businessess to adopt similar practices.

It certaintly wont change the thousands of black African kids being used as modern day house slaves in the Middle East, thats for sure.

Again, change is great! But fickle change to maintain or increase your supporter base is bullsh1t. This act in itself doesnt bother me and Im sure there are better terms but the sentiment behind it however is transparent.