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Journalism and Cycling 2: the difficult second album

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  • #422
    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,890 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/06/30/bicycle-companys-tv-ad-pulled-by-french-advertising-regulator-for-discrediting-automobile-sector/


  • #423
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,147 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    This is the ad referred to above. I've no idea what the problem is with it
    https://twitter.com/modacitylife/status/1277923239654756361


  • #424
    Type 17
    Registered Users Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭Type 17


    Reading the Forbes article about the AARP (French advertising standards authority), it's obvious that they are in the the pocket of big business in France...


  • #425
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,282 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    lemme guess, the french advertising industry is self-regulated?


  • #426
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    To be fair, if true, the French advertising agency just handed them a multi million euro as campaign for nothing. If it's not true, well played Vanmoof, it's really hard to tell the truth from fiction anymore.


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  • #427
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Nice ad actually, really liked that visual of the car melting away to a pool of liquid metal, very Terminator 2 :pac:


  • #428
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    The bike on the other hand is one for the images of ugly thread surely?


  • #429
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,818 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    I've seen them in real life, I think they're actually quite nice in the flesh. I think ya have to get used to them. I didn't like them initially but I like them now. They're quite stylish for a hybrid/townbike thing.


  • #430
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,346 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Hurrache wrote: »
    This is the ad referred to above. I've no idea what the problem is with it

    The problem with it is that it is effective.


  • #431
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    eeeee wrote: »
    I've seen them in real life, I think they're actually quite nice in the flesh. I think ya have to get used to them. I didn't like them initially but I like them now. They're quite stylish for a hybrid/townbike thing.
    I see one locked to a railing overnight every night at the bottom of a very long driveway, cant believe its never been lifted. Without giving a location its a Georgian terrace in a wealthy part of Dublin so probably not too big a burden for the owner considering the cars in the driveway but still.


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  • #432
    12 element
    Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭12 element


    https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2020/07/01/cyclists-should-not-wear-headphones-mayo-councillor

    Do these councilors do any research before launching into these rants?


  • #433
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,346 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    12 element wrote: »
    https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2020/07/01/cyclists-should-not-wear-headphones-mayo-councillor

    Do these councilors do any research before launching into these rants?

    Fair play to Director of Services Tom; "Director of services Tom Gilligan said you could have the same argument for slow drivers."


  • #434
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Fair play to Director of Services Tom; "Director of services Tom Gilligan said you could have the same argument for slow drivers."

    Yeah, but slow drivers are traffic, apparently cyclists aren't.


  • #435
    Duckjob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Some cyclists, he said, are not getting into single file when they hear traffic behind them and were putting their own lives in danger.


    Translation: "As soon as you hear a motorist's car engine behind you you should immediately scurry into single file even if that is likely to encourage a dangerous overtake. If a driver loses it with you for not doing this and mills you out of it, you only have yourself to blame."

    Sounds like Counsillor John O'Malley could usefully be retested to see if his driving ability and mental attitudes towards other road users are of a high enough standard to make him a safe and competent driver worthy to hold a driving licence.


  • #436
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    eeeee wrote: »
    I've seen them in real life, I think they're actually quite nice in the flesh. I think ya have to get used to them. I didn't like them initially but I like them now. They're quite stylish for a hybrid/townbike thing.

    Agree. I actually like them. They’re a good size for commuting. Like they look big and beefy and there’s a few touches of thoughtful design in them l, like the lights. They’re around years too. A proven concept if you know what I mean.


  • #437
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,741 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Wasn't there a story reported in the media of a Dutch woman on a VanMoof stopped by the police in New York for wearing too short a skirt and distracting drivers, and then it turned out she was head of marketing at VanMoof or something?

    And I think they got a story in the media about how they shipped their bikes with a graphic of a TV on the box so that they'd be handled with more care?


    Maybe these things are all true, or maybe, as alluded to earlier, they're very good at creating stories for the media with their name in them.


    Or both, I suppose.

    EDIT: I didn't imagine it anyway:
    https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/cop-allegedly-threatened-to-ticket-cyclist-for-wearing-a-skirt


  • #438
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,818 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Wasn't there a story reported in the media of a Dutch woman on a VanMoof stopped by the police in New York for wearing too short a skirt and distracting drivers, and then it turned out she was head of marketing at VanMoof or something?


    https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/cop-allegedly-threatened-to-ticket-cyclist-for-wearing-a-skirt

    Fcuking hill. In 2011. That's outrageous. Absolutely outrageous. I didn't know about that. :mad:


  • #439
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,741 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    It might have been a marketing stunt. I guess all three might have been. I don't know.

    https://gothamist.com/news/was-biking-while-sexy-story-just-viral-marketing-stunt-to-sell-bikes

    EDIT: As you all already know, the French advertising watchdog story is real. They probably all are. VanMoof is very good at getting publicity though.


  • #440
    Grassey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    Waterford whispers could have a field day with VanMuff cycles from Donegal.


  • #441
    Type 17
    Registered Users Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭Type 17


    I rate this guy's stuff as journalism (and pron) - New 8,500-bike parking garage in The Hague

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5qee4AVA3Y


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  • #442
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Alan Dillon on NewsTalk this morning https://www.newstalk.com/news/proposal-children-cycle-helmet-1040250
    “While the roads are much quieter during this time, they are not what they used to be. We are seeing a lot more cars, 4X4s and SUVs and I want to make sure that children at a young age are introduced to cycle helmets which can be part of their routine as they go through and develop during primary school.”

    Hold on to your eyeballs, they'll do a fair bit of rolling listening to this :rolleyes:


  • #443
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Helmets will protect you when you're hit by an SUV? LOL


  • #444
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,807 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The newstalk tweet promoting the segment (currently @ 57.1% No)...

    https://twitter.com/BreakfastNT/status/1278943857548410880


  • #445
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,741 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I guess this is getting in Helmet megathread territory, but I don't see this coalition giving this a priority, especially with Ryan in Transport.


  • #446
    Chiparus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I guess this is getting in Helmet megathread territory, but I don't see this coalition giving this a priority, especially with Ryan in Transport.

    Ryan , the bicycle shop owner?
    Would not trust that guy--have you seen the company he keeps?


  • #447
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Eamon Ryan is not going to make helmets mandatory. Dillon has been at this since before government formation. It's definitely not happening now.


  • #448
    Curb Your Enthusiasm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Eamon Ryan is not going to make helmets mandatory. Dillon has been at this since before government formation. It's definitely not happening now.

    Why is he so obsessed with this helmet plan? Has he nothing better to propose, like, oh I dunno, cycling infrastructure countrywide?

    Perhaps he should stick to the GAA.


  • #449
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,147 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Liveline starts with a piece sympathetic to cyclists, think it may be that lady some might have seen in twitter who had a bad fright around Ashford.

    Won't be long before a tonal shift I'm sure.


  • #450
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    How long before red lights, "road tax", helmets and hi vis?


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  • #451
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Liveline starts with a piece sympathetic to cyclists, think it may be that lady some might have seen in twitter who had a bad fright around Ashford.

    Won't be long before a tonal shift I'm sure.

    Saw her video on Twitter. Very distressing.


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