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Mayor calls a spade a spade..

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    a very cool kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭a very cool kid


    Slideways wrote: »
    The new Lord Mayor of Perth has gotten himself in hot water after saying if you have a penis you’re a bloke. Not quite political chat but pretty much accurate.

    Also said that the homeless are smelly and cause fights, that they should be shifted from the city centre. Again, pretty much bang on..

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/31/forgot-i-was-mayor-basil-zempilas-apologises-for-transgender-comments-saying-he-forgot-his-position?


    Thoughts?

    Who cares?

    Obviously biology is important to us as humans but we shouldn't be going out of our way to upset others who feel they have the wrong biology. It's extremely discourteous at the very least.


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    Trouser Snake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭Trouser Snake


    You wouldn't need an umbrella if caught in a shower of rain around him.


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    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Slideways wrote: »
    The new Lord Mayor of Perth has gotten himself in hot water after saying if you have a penis you’re a bloke. Not quite political chat but pretty much accurate.

    Thoughts?

    He sounds like Crocodile Dundee :)


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    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    "if you have a penis you’re a bloke"

    My thoughts, fekk let's not get into that again on here :pac:


    Australian politics continues its proud tradition of being as subtle and gentle as being smashed over the back of the head with a shovel.


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    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,144 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    At least he is safe knowing the Sense Police won't arrest him.


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    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,162 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    He starts off reasonable enough:
    “If you’ve got a penis mate, you’re a bloke,” he told 6PR listeners on Wednesday morning during a discussion about an upcoming LGBTQ+ boxing tournament due to be held in Sydney.
    ...but then he just keeps going


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    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Slideways wrote: »
    The new Lord Mayor of Perth has gotten himself in hot water after saying if you have a penis you’re a bloke. Not quite [/url]?

    Accurate statement.


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    French Toast
    Registered Users Posts: 722 ✭✭✭French Toast


    “If you’ve got a penis mate, you’re a bloke,” he told 6PR listeners on Wednesday morning, “If you’ve got a vagina, you’re a woman. Game over."

    Comments like this can land you in trouble. Where do we go from here?


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    Frankie Machine
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Frankie Machine


    a very cool kid wrote: »
    Who cares?

    Obviously biology is important to us as humans but we shouldn't be going out of our way to upset others who feel they have the wrong biology. It's extremely discourteous at the very least.

    There is a word for cowardly pandering to the cohort who call women 'menstruators', 'chest feeders', and 'TERF's'.

    'Courteous' is not it.


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    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    This won’t go down well with the “woke” brigade.


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    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Frankie Machine wrote: »
    There is a word for cowardly pandering to the cohort who call women 'menstruators', 'chest feeders', and 'TERF's'.

    'Courteous' is not it.

    Tossers?


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    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    This won’t go down well with the “woke” brigade.

    Woke is only a new thing, Men and Women have been a thing since the beginning of human history so who cares what a bunch of 20 somethings that want to change the world think.


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    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    This won’t go down well with the “woke” brigade.

    Nothing ever does....


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    46 Long
    Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    Advocacy group TransFolk of WA chair Hunter Gurevich labelled Zempilas’ comments as: “repugnant, bigoted, narrow-minded, parochial and fundamentally denying contemporary science”

    The awkward moment when the surgeon removes your sense of irony along with your genitals.


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    old_aussie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Slideways wrote: »
    The new Lord Mayor of Perth has gotten himself in hot water after saying if you have a penis you’re a bloke. Not quite political chat but pretty much accurate.

    Also said that the homeless are smelly and cause fights, that they should be shifted from the city centre. Again, pretty much bang on..

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/31/forgot-i-was-mayor-basil-zempilas-apologises-for-transgender-comments-saying-he-forgot-his-position?


    Thoughts?

    And the problem being ........


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    padd b1975
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    46 Long wrote: »
    The awkward moment when the surgeon removes your sense of irony along with your genitals.

    What's contemporary science?


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    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    What's contemporary science?

    It's like trendy science. It seems all cool and edgy when you're young, but when you're older you'll look back and cringe at the asinine things you believed. Meanwhile that dull reality based science will stand the test of time despite not garnering as many clickbait headlines.


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    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users Posts: 16,023 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    a very cool kid wrote: »
    Who cares?

    Obviously biology is important to us as humans but we shouldn't be going out of our way to upset others who feel they have the wrong biology. It's extremely discourteous at the very least.

    i don't understand. whats biology in your mind?

    i identify as an amputee; would you cut off my legs if you had the power?


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    jenneyk19
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 54 ✭✭jenneyk19


    there's a lot of fake blokes in australia


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    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,656 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Slideways wrote: »
    The new Lord Mayor of Perth has gotten himself in hot water after saying if you have a penis you’re a bloke. Not quite political chat but pretty much accurate.

    Also said that the homeless are smelly and cause fights, that they should be shifted from the city centre. Again, pretty much bang on..

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/31/forgot-i-was-mayor-basil-zempilas-apologises-for-transgender-comments-saying-he-forgot-his-position?


    Thoughts?


    Best part of the whole thing?


    In a bizarre end to a turbulent day, on Thursday night Seven News featured the story of Zempilas’ condemnation before crossing to him for sports coverage.


    I can imagine the producer in his earpiece - “Don’t mention the foxy boxing!”, breaking his hole laughing :D


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    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Slideways wrote: »
    The new Lord Mayor of Perth has gotten himself in hot water after saying if you have a penis you’re a bloke. Not quite political chat but pretty much accurate.

    Also said that the homeless are smelly and cause fights, that they should be shifted from the city centre. Again, pretty much bang on..

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/31/forgot-i-was-mayor-basil-zempilas-apologises-for-transgender-comments-saying-he-forgot-his-position?


    Thoughts?
    Before anyone discusses the views of irrelevant unelected radio hosts, at least let us know if they have forgotten that they are mayor.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/31/forgot-i-was-mayor-basil-zempilas-apologises-for-transgender-comments-saying-he-forgot-his-position

    As he was speaking as a radio host, it literally is the same as 'Katie Hopkins is a racist'. Thoughts...


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    Frankie Machine
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Frankie Machine


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Before anyone discusses the views of irrelevant unelected radio hosts, at least let us know if they have forgotten that they are mayor.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/31/forgot-i-was-mayor-basil-zempilas-apologises-for-transgender-comments-saying-he-forgot-his-position

    As he was speaking as a radio host, it literally is the same as 'Katie Hopkins is a racist'. Thoughts...

    No, it literally isn't.

    He was not speaking as a radio host. He doesn't cease to be the mayor just because he's fulfilling a different role at a moment in time.

    He was speaking as mayor, even though he 'forgot it'. That's why he is 'saying he forgot his position'.

    But if you think he, a media type elected on the back of
    a job he landed just a fortnight ago after a highly visible election campaign
    'forgot' anything... lols.


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    Slideways
    Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Slideways


    Frankie Machine wrote: »
    No, it literally isn't.

    He was not speaking as a radio host. He doesn't cease to be the mayor just because he's fulfilling a different role at a moment in time.

    He was speaking as mayor, even though he 'forgot it'. That's why he is 'saying he forgot his position'.

    But if you think he, a media type elected on the back of 'forgot' anything... lols.

    You know what, he should have just said that what he said was his personal opinion and does not represent the city of Perth


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    Frankie Machine
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Frankie Machine


    Slideways wrote: »
    You know what, he should have just said that what he said was his personal opinion and does not represent the city of Perth

    Of course.

    But that would still only satisfy the reasonable people.

    The loud minority though...


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    ingalway
    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭ingalway


    a very cool kid wrote: »
    Who cares?

    Obviously biology is important to us as humans but we shouldn't be going out of our way to upset others who feel they have the wrong biology. It's extremely discourteous at the very least.

    Many women and girls care who don't want biological males who declare themselves to be women in their sports, showers, dorms, toilets, changing rooms, rape shelters, prisons, hospital wards.


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    francois
    Registered Users Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭francois


    Slideways wrote: »
    The new Lord Mayor of Perth has gotten himself in hot water after saying if you have a penis you’re a bloke. Not quite political chat but pretty much accurate.

    Also said that the homeless are smelly and cause fights, that they should be shifted from the city centre. Again, pretty much bang on..

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/31/forgot-i-was-mayor-basil-zempilas-apologises-for-transgender-comments-saying-he-forgot-his-position?


    Thoughts?

    Couldn’t give a ****e what some minor politician in a far away country thinks to be honest, do we need endless culture war threads?


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    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Skippy politicians aren't as stiff collared as ours. They can be a bit more upfront a lot of the time.


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    nj27
    Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    He's right of course, but the problem is once you've entered into a discussion over whether or not having a custard chucker makes you a man you've already lost. It's like when biologists were very wary about debating the likes of William Lane Craigh or Duane Gish, it lends legitimacy to the whole concept when you place obviously reality alongside complete madness in the setting of a formal debate.


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,587 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    He’s Australian, what do people expect?!


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    Frankie Machine
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Frankie Machine


    walshb wrote: »
    He’s Australian, what do people expect?!

    Oi !

    Australian Lives Matter !


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