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New Met Éireann Website (beta)

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  • #392
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Discodog wrote: »
    I use the Meteoradar app which works well.

    I thought the radar, on the new site, is high res. Heavy drizzle in Galway isn't showing up.

    I don't think making the graphics any better can in any way improve the precision of the radar. Just because it looks better doesn't mean its more accurate.


  • #393
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,815 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    my3cents wrote: »
    I don't think making the graphics any better can in any way improve the precision of the radar. Just because it looks better doesn't mean its more accurate.

    I thought that high res can pick up smaller drops.


  • #394
    Comhrá
    Registered Users Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Drizzle and mist don't show that well on precip radar. Tiny water droplets don't have good radar reflectivity.

    https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/31945/why-does-weather-radar-not-report-some-precipitation
    Drizzle is a trifecta with WX radar.

    First the extremely small particles tend to be stealth, and have much much less reflectivity than larger droplets or snow.

    Second, drizzle tends to be low to the ground, and to the radar processor, may look like the ground to anti-clutter algorithms. The low to the ground can also impact how much energy is radiated there, also an anti-ground clutter measure.

    Third, drizzle by it's nature tends to be rather stationary. The air it is in is normally stable, and there is little movement for a Doppler processor to pull out. The radar processor handles echo data, not just Doppler data, but the Doppler data is used to enhance the sensitivity of the unit. Generally it works well for moisture which is moving, but drizzle has little motion. Except downward, which is orthogonal to the radar, and therefore not a factor.

    Similarly, most clouds, and smoke may not show up on WX radar. Birds may, as their radar cross section (RCS) is larger, then tend to move, and they tend to move as a mass of points, all which make them more easily trackable with radar.

    In summary, the reasons why Doppler WX radar tends to not show drizzle well are: 1. Extremely small particles, 2. drizzle is low to the ground, and 3.drizzle is stationary and therefore not enhanced by Doppler processors.


  • #395
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    the sat images are two days old.


  • #396
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Sick and tired of being given the forecast for Dublin and Leinster! It's about as relevant to me as the forecast for Johannesburg! When's this going to be fixed!

    And it's finally fixed! Back in Munster.

    Feeling a little less sluggish too, moving in the right direction.


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  • #397
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users Posts: 31,813 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Anyone else finding the temperature radar hard to read?


  • #398
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Anyone else finding the temperature radar hard to read?

    Yup, the temperature forecast is farily useless.

    I see loads of different colours, but no actual figures and no key to figure out what the colours mean!


  • #399
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Yup, the temperature forecast is farily useless.

    I see loads of different colours, but no actual figures and no key to figure out what the numbers mean!

    Depending where the numbers are on the map you can't always read them at all.


  • #400
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    my3cents wrote: »
    Depending where the numbers are on the map you can't always read them at all.

    Yup


  • #401
    Joe Public
    Registered Users Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Is there a link to yesterday's weather for all stations from this new portal.


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  • #402
    sryanbruen
    Registered Users Posts: 13,492 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Joe Public wrote: »
    Is there a link to yesterday's weather for all stations from this new portal.

    https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations/yesterday

    Photography site - https://www.sryanbruenphoto.com/

    Weather photo portfolio - https://sryanbruen.myportfolio.com/weather-1



  • #403
    Joe Public
    Registered Users Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations/yesterday

    I was trying to browse in from my phone rather than use an app and this is what I get. Ok using windows laptop as you have shown.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=450316&stc=1&d=1525819845

    450316.png


  • #404
    sryanbruen
    Registered Users Posts: 13,492 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Joe Public wrote: »
    I was trying to browse in from my phone rather than use an app and this is what I get. Ok using windows laptop as you have shown.

    As far as I know, you can only get to the page on mobile via the link above I gave or simply searching met.ie yesterday's weather into google.

    TpxYtM6.png

    Photography site - https://www.sryanbruenphoto.com/

    Weather photo portfolio - https://sryanbruen.myportfolio.com/weather-1



  • #405
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations/yesterday

    Works for me!

    However, the data I am seeing at the moment is inaccurate. It says the 8th of May, Tuesday, which would be yesterday now, had a Max of 20.1c. Perhaps it's showing the weather for the 7th?


  • #406
    Joe Public
    Registered Users Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Works for me!

    However, the data I am seeing at the moment is inaccurate. It says the 8th of May, Tuesday, which would be yesterday now, had a Max of 20.1c. Perhaps it's showing the weather for the 7th?


    Yes, the only way I can reach yesterday's data on my mobile is by typing in the full link you gave. Trying to get there via archive.met.ie only redirects me to m.met.ie which doesn't have the details.

    All thanks to muddle eireann


  • #407
    pauldry
    Registered Users Posts: 6,866 ✭✭✭pauldry


    This was one of my two issues before

    Pathetic isnt it


  • #408
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    I was going to say how good the local forcasts had been till today....... :rolleyes:

    This morning the forecast showed it as rain forecast for the afternoon just the same as it has shown all week. Come midday the forecast shows no rain for the afternoon and its p!ssed it down all afternoon. That has to be a screw up somewhere.


  • #409
    ollie103
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭ollie103


    Local forecast seem confusing about tomorrow (Friday 11 May): national and regional forecast is for rain but the short-term forcast for Malahide is for cloudy weather with only some rain in the mid-afternoon!

    Is it normally this wrong or so different to the national and regional forecast text?

    Hopefully the screen shot I took has attached.


  • #410
    Donegal Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    North Dublin is forecast to be in the rain shadow of the Wicklow mountains tomorrow hence only a couple hours of rain in the afternoon

    tempresult_bpb0.gif


  • #411
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Amazingly my coal fired Opera 12.18 (at least 5 years old) displays this site better than Chrome 47, which cannot display anything at all really beyond text. A total mess.


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  • #412
    kc56
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭kc56


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Amazingly my coal fired Opera 12.18 (at least 5 years old) displays this site better than Chrome 47, which cannot display anything at all really beyond text. A total mess.

    Chrome 47 was released in 2015. Current version is 66. Upgrade.


  • #413
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Well after a couple of weeks use of the new site and app, the conclusion is: I don't like them. I think the temperature chart for the country in particular is terrible. Gone back to using the archive site on a Windows PC and via Safari on my iphone. Deleted the ios app.


  • #414
    pauldry
    Registered Users Posts: 6,866 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Yup me too.

    Its unusable on the phone

    Maybe when head of technology takes over it will be better.


  • #415
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,277 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The facilities on the new site are good, but the ease of use is poor.

    I love the rainfall forecast, but I'd love it more if
    1) I could have a setting to make it the default map that appears for me when the page opens, and
    2) it would remember my zoomed in position on Dublin.

    Without these fairly simple facilities, I have to do the same 6 clicks every time I open the site, which is a bit of a PITA.


  • #416
    Joe Public
    Registered Users Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    is it time to call Joe Duffy?


  • #417
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Had been working fine until today, where my location is now permanently set as Dublin again.


  • #418
    ZX7R
    Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    I decided to wait a while before posting,the only thing I like is there radar, there forecast nearly always Contradicts there daily out look drive's me mad,there 5day outlook changes so often it's near on impossible to plan out door work,for example the five day outlook has changed 3 times since 7 am this morning


  • #419
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    ZX7R wrote: »
    I decided to wait a while before posting,the only thing I like is there radar, there forecast nearly always Contradicts there daily out look drive's me mad,there 5day outlook changes so often it's near on impossible to plan out door work,for example the five day outlook has changed 3 times since 7 am this morning

    I don't even look at the 5 day outlook, it's completely bonkers. It could say 11c and rain, and when you click on the breakdown it could say 23c and sun. Doesn't match their forecast to any extent either. I don't know where they pulled it out from, but it's actually hilarious.

    And on my own note, I'm still in Dublin and not West Clare according to the app, and because of this I can't see the Munster forecast. Perhaps users should be able to input their own location? Dublin's weather isn't useful for me at all, and many others. If someone doesn't have their GPS on, why should they be prevented from seeing the weather from anywhere else?


  • #420
    ZX7R
    Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    I don't even look at the 5 day outlook, it's completely bonkers. It could say 11c and rain, and when you click on the breakdown it could say 23c and sun. Doesn't match their forecast to any extent either. I don't know where they pulled it out from, but it's actually hilarious.

    And on my own note, I'm still in Dublin and not West Clare according to the app, and because of this I can't see the Munster forecast. Perhaps users should be able to input their own location? Dublin's weather isn't useful for me at all, and many others. If someone doesn't have their GPS on, why should they be prevented from seeing the weather from anywhere else?
    Yes I agree with you don't see why location has to be turned on all the time,5 day outlook has changed twice again, also there current conditions for Kildare was showing light rain all morning and reality was sun and broken cloud.
    I personally believe met earann need more human input in there forecasts and less reliance on computer models and more funding


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  • #421
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I have to say - having waited a while - that the old android app was much more user friendly.
    I prefer the old radar. I don't see the point in 5 minute intervals. It is a pain in the ass to use the new app.

    Edit: Any idea why the Europe visible satellite images don't show the whole of Spain, Italy, etc
    It would seem a necessary thing with many people going on holiday there.


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