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Best Actor of the modern era?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Misrepresented how? You said "many" and I said "a couple" which is just a figure of speech. I don't see how I acted offended that seems to be something you're doing more.

    Anyhow thanks for providing a few details but no real aspect as to what you don't like about his performances apart from him "gurning".

    It just seems like you don't like him no matter what he does because to say that his performance in The Revenant was poor and it was a poor film just simply not stand up when you look at the critical acclaim and accolades both his performance and the film received and I'm not just talking about The Oscars.

    I like the variety of roles he has had and how he has developed. He could easily have chosen to accept less challenging roles after achieving heart throb status after Titanic but instead he became selective, has made very few poor films in my opinion and tackled a wide variety of roles that avoid him being typecast and I find him very believable.

    I said I think he is very good, I just don’t think he is great. You don’t seem to have read any of my posts about him very carefully. What’s up with that?

    The Revenant was brutal. And not universally acclaimed either. There were tepid critic reviews and a few bad ones. And who gives a crap about the Oscars? The absolute dreck it has garlanded over the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭PonchoMcHoncho


    DiCaprio for just consistent top notch performances in mostly amazing movies for over 20 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭I Am Nobody


    Tom Hanks - I find him believable in any of the varied roles he has taken on, from the schmaltzy (You've got Mail), hard hitting (Philadelphia, Captain Philips) and the quirky (Forest Gump)

    Saving Private Ryan he was brilliant in.Hell I still love the Money Pit and Splash.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭CinderKone


    Ian McKellen


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I don't know what "the modern era" means. Seriously, OP, narrow it down.

    Best actor since the talkies?

    In the last twenty years?

    Gene Hackman would be up there for possibly my favourite of all time. Not necessarily the best, just my favourite. Fantastic in just about everything I've seen him in. Manages to kind of be himself and fully inhabit the character as well. Never felt like he was repeating himself. And he could convey menace and threat usually by suggestion.

    Robert Shaw was fantastic. Quint was immense, but his baddy from The Taking of Pelham 123 - one of the best films of all time - is the one that sticks in my mind: such a cold and clinical professional. I also love Walter Matthau in that movie, seriously great in the few straight dramatic roles he played.

    Daniel Day Lewis of course. If someone was to say he's the best ever I'd find it hard to disagree. Incredible range. Can go up to 11 or dial it right down to zero. Seems to "be" the character moreso than any other actor I can think of. I really hope he makes another movie.

    Philip Seymour Hoffman of course, though I think his gift was in intensity and conviction - there is a certain PSH quality to all of the characters he portrayed: I feel they all think the same things about themselves when they turn off the light at night, no matter who they were.

    Brando in his pomp.

    DeNiro in his pomp. After Heat he stopped giving a fck.

    It's not a popular opinion these days, but Kevin Spacey really was a fine actor. Pity that he was such a weirdo.

    A modern day actor who is seriously underrated is Stephen Graham. He's known now and is getting bigger roles, but he's been stellar in pretty much everything for about twenty years. Amazing range, can play all sorts of characters. His work in the TV series of This is England was something else - from ultra threatening skinhead to eventual broken remorseful man.

    A personal left-field choice for a madly underrated actor is a guy called Peter Ferdinando. I saw him play a serial killer in Tony, a low-budget British film from a few years ago. In that film he was an emaciated twig of a man, emotionless and repressed. A few years later I watched him play a corrupt cop in another movie called Hayena. I couldn't believe it was the same actor. In the second movie he was overweight, explosive and emotionally all over the place. It felt like I wasn't just watching two different performances, more like I was watching two entirely different human beings. Such a complete transformation. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to do much work and I've only seen him in bit parts elsewhere, which is a shame because he's clearly unbelievable. I've only seen Day Lewis or Brando completely dissapear into a role like that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    8 pages in, and this is the only mention of who I would have as a clear favourite, Samuel L Jackson.

    8 pages? I'm only on 4. You need to click on profile, control panel, edit options, thread display options and change to 40 posts per page. Much better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    buried wrote: »
    Well, as he was the lead character in the first one in order for it to be a success maybe he thought he was due it, I don't know what he was thinking but it doesn't remove his legacy, a legacy that gave creedence to a comic book character film when at the time comic book characters didn't translate to film at all.

    Ah Jaysus, don't put that on Brando! If there was one person that could be blamed for how awful cinema is now, I would absolutely love to hate them! Batman, Spiderman, Avengers, Wolverine, Thor, Fantastic 4 etc, etc. Was there a movie called Batman V Superman ffs?? Cinema is at an absolute nadir now, aimed at teenage boys, of which I am not one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    So hard to pick one. Most of those mentioned here are brilliant. There isn't just one I think, and I think if I had to choose it would probably be one from an older era.

    But the one I consistently enjoy the most is Tom Hanks. Very versatile and always believable. Such an amazing catalogue of great performances.

    Probably not on any lists, but I also love Mark Ruffalo in everything that doesn't involve superheroes . And Reese Witherspoon. Some top performances.

    I will say though, that I have never enjoyed a single Day Lewis film. I just don't get it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭I Am Nobody


    No love for Sandra Bullock I see.Shameful!


  • Registered Users Posts: 84,974 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Joaquin Phoenix.

    + 1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    It's funny though that the single performance that has moved me the most is by an actor I don't otherwise see as particularly noteworthy, albeit I think he's a good actor. That's Adrien Brody in The Pianist. No other film has ever had such a deep impact on me. The performance is outstanding. And though he disgusts me as a person, the director has done a magnificent job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    So hard to pick one. Most of those mentioned here are brilliant. There isn't just one I think, and I think if I had to choose it would probably be one from an older era.

    But the one I consistently enjoy the most is Tom Hanks. Very versatile and always believable. Such an amazing catalogue of great performances.

    Probably not on any lists, but I also love Mark Ruffalo in everything that doesn't involve superheroes . And Reese Witherspoon. Some top performances.

    I will say though, that I have never enjoyed a single Day Lewis film. I just don't get it.

    I can understand that, to an extent, there aren't many films that he's appeared in that would qualify as easy entertainment. Personally, I think he's great in just about everything. If I was to recommend any of his films for pure entertainment I'd say Last of The Mochians or maybe even Lincoln.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Arghus wrote: »
    I can understand that, to an extent, there aren't many films that he's appeared in that would qualify as easy entertainment. Personally, I think he's great in just about everything. If I was to recommend any of his films for pure entertainment I'd say Last of The Mochians or maybe even Lincoln.

    I rate many films that are not "easy entertainment". I don't think that's the issue for me. I did not like either of the above films.


  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Eduard Khil


    James McAvoy definitely done some great performances. He's in an underappreciated Irish gem called Inside I'm Dancing plays a guy confined to an electric wheelchair it was a very good film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Based on a very short but impeccable career, I think John Cazale deserves a mention too. His performance in The Deer Hunter was excellent, though that could be said of all the actors I think. An incredibly strong cast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Eduard Khil


    Based on a very short but impeccable career, I think John Cazale deserves a mention too. His performance in The Deer Hunter was excellent, though that could be said of all the actors I think. An incredibly strong cast.


    Fredo aside (Absolute best role of his short career :( ) he was excellent in the deer hunter and Dog Day Afternoon so sad he died so young.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84,974 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    James McAvoy definitely done some great performances. He's in an underappreciated Irish gem called Inside I'm Dancing plays a guy confined to an electric wheelchair it was a very good film.

    Very good in Split


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Daniel Day Lewis is so good his wife said she has been in bed with many different men during their marriage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Define modern era...

    Anthony Hopkins or Daniel Day Lewis, stewards enquiry needed. Two phenomenal talents.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    For me it has to be Jared Harris - he was superb as Valery Legasov in Chernobyl. He was also brilliant in "the Terror" a supernatural thriller set around an expedition to Antartica in the late 19th C, and in "Fringe".


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    For me it has to be Jared Harris - he was superb as Valery Legasov in Chernobyl. He was also brilliant in "the Terror" a supernatural thriller set around an expedition to Antartica in the late 19th C, and in "Fringe".

    A decent actor but hardly worthy of such a lofty title.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Keyzer wrote: »
    A decent actor but hardly worthy of such a lofty title.

    OK. He's my favourite actor of the modern era.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Morgan Freeman
    Has done comedy and drama, excellent at both.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Sean Penn, Tom Hanks, Julianne Moore, Meryl Streep, Morgan Freeman and Edward Norton would be my selections.

    Penn and Moore in particular are simply brilliant in every role I have seen them in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Relikk


    Joaquin Phoenix, Paul Dano and Gary Oldman.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Christina Hendricks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    Arghus wrote: »
    I don't know what "the modern era" means. Seriously, OP, narrow it down.

    Best actor since the talkies?

    In the last twenty years?

    Gene Hackman would be up there for possibly my favourite of all time. Not necessarily the best, just my favourite. Fantastic in just about everything I've seen him in. Manages to kind of be himself and fully inhabit the character as well. Never felt like he was repeating himself. And he could convey menace and threat usually by suggestion.

    Robert Shaw was fantastic. Quint was immense, but his baddy from The Taking of Pelham 123 - one of the best films of all time - is the one that sticks in my mind: such a cold and clinical professional. I also love Walter Matthau in that movie, seriously great in the few straight dramatic roles he played.

    Daniel Day Lewis of course. If someone was to say he's the best ever I'd find it hard to disagree. Incredible range. Can go up to 11 or dial it right down to zero. Seems to "be" the character moreso than any other actor I can think of. I really hope he makes another movie.

    Philip Seymour Hoffman of course, though I think his gift was in intensity and conviction - there is a certain PSH quality to all of the characters he portrayed: I feel they all think the same things about themselves when they turn off the light at night, no matter who they were.

    Brando in his pomp.

    DeNiro in his pomp. After Heat he stopped giving a fck.

    It's not a popular opinion these days, but Kevin Spacey really was a fine actor. Pity that he was such a weirdo.

    A modern day actor who is seriously underrated is Stephen Graham. He's known now and is getting bigger roles, but he's been stellar in pretty much everything for about twenty years. Amazing range, can play all sorts of characters. His work in the TV series of This is England was something else - from ultra threatening skinhead to eventual broken remorseful man.

    A personal left-field choice for a madly underrated actor is a guy called Peter Ferdinando. I saw him play a serial killer in Tony, a low-budget British film from a few years ago. In that film he was an emaciated twig of a man, emotionless and repressed. A few years later I watched him play a corrupt cop in another movie called Hayena. I couldn't believe it was the same actor. In the second movie he was overweight, explosive and emotionally all over the place. It felt like I wasn't just watching two different performances, more like I was watching two entirely different human beings. Such a complete transformation. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to do much work and I've only seen him in bit parts elsewhere, which is a shame because he's clearly unbelievable. I've only seen Day Lewis or Brando completely dissapear into a role like that.

    Couldn't agree more on Stephen Graham, he was also fantastic in The Virtues, he can really pull out gut wrenching performances.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    And since for some reason people seem to be taking it very seriously, I think Di Caprio comes across as a complete sap, and wish he died sooner in all of his movies. I was really rooting for the bear and the iceberg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Has to be Leo from Fair City


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Arghus wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis of course. If someone was to say he's the best ever I'd find it hard to disagree. Incredible range. Can go up to 11 or dial it right down to zero. Seems to "be" the character moreso than any other actor I can think of. I really hope he makes another movie.

    A personal left-field choice for a madly underrated actor is a guy called Peter Ferdinando. I saw him play a serial killer in Tony, a low-budget British film from a few years ago. In that film he was an emaciated twig of a man, emotionless and repressed. A few years later I watched him play a corrupt cop in another movie called Hayena. I couldn't believe it was the same actor. In the second movie he was overweight, explosive and emotionally all over the place. It felt like I wasn't just watching two different performances, more like I was watching two entirely different human beings. Such a complete transformation. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to do much work and I've only seen him in bit parts elsewhere, which is a shame because he's clearly unbelievable. I've only seen Day Lewis or Brando completely dissapear into a role like that.

    That's why Daniel Day Lewis is number one for me. I see the character, not an actor playing a part.

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