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12-02-2020, 16:51   #226
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I don't understand how anyone can with SF is a nationalist party when they are servants of the EU and internationalist socialists, want to introduce hate speech legislation so we can't argue against uncontrolled mass immigration.

Is their slogan "Brits out, the whole world and their ma in!"?

And far be it from me as a foreigner to have an opinion on the North, but why spill blood over dirt in the North for the sake of national identity when most of the people who support SF and a united Ireland don't even want to secure national identity against the EU, or control their borders to the rest of the world?

I don't think annexing the North will do anyone any good.

Either way, I just want better firearms regulations tbh. A gun owner in the North probably wouldn't want our gun laws.
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12-02-2020, 18:51   #227
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I don't understand how anyone can with SF is a nationalist party when they are servants of the EU and internationalist socialists, want to introduce hate speech legislation so we can't argue against uncontrolled mass immigration.

Is their slogan "Brits out, the whole world and their ma in!"?

And far be it from me as a foreigner to have an opinion on the North, but why spill blood over dirt in the North for the sake of national identity when most of the people who support SF and a united Ireland don't even want to secure national identity against the EU, or control their borders to the rest of the world?

I don't think annexing the North will do anyone any good.

Either way, I just want better firearms regulations tbh. A gun owner in the North probably wouldn't want our gun laws.

You cannot be Nationalist and international socialist, one contradicts the other. they are republican and marxist. They might not even get into power, if SF had an ounce of sense, they would not touch FF with a barge pole. What would their hardcore supporters think ? I doubt they would be happy in the slightest about it. Thats what happened to Labour, they hopped into bed with FF and no one has given them the time of day since.
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You cannot be Nationalist and international socialist, one contradicts the other. they are republican and marxist. They might not even get into power, if SF had an ounce of sense, they would not touch FF with a barge pole. What would their hardcore supporters think ? I doubt they would be happy in the slightest about it. Thats what happened to Labour, they hopped into bed with FF and no one has given them the time of day since.
Well we do great contradictions in Ireland.Remember having a Soviet and and a Catholic arch confernatity at the same time???Connolly argued you could be both Catholic and Marxist at the same time.Stalin might have disagreed with him on that point ...

The real dilemna will be for SF.Yelling Brits out!and welcoming prince Harry and that one he got married to.
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You cannot be Nationalist and international socialist, one contradicts the other. they are republican and marxist. They might not even get into power, if SF had an ounce of sense, they would not touch FF with a barge pole. What would their hardcore supporters think ? I doubt they would be happy in the slightest about it. Thats what happened to Labour, they hopped into bed with FF and no one has given them the time of day since.
Well we do great contradictions in Ireland.Remember having a Soviet and and a Catholic arch confernatity at the same time???Connolly argued you could be both Catholic and Marxist at the same time.Stalin might have disagreed with him on that point ...

The real dilemna will be for SF.Yelling Brits out!and welcoming prince Harry and that one he got married to.
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Well we do great contradictions in Ireland.Remember having a Soviet and and a Catholic arch confernatity at the same time???Connolly argued you could be both Catholic and Marxist at the same time.Stalin might have disagreed with him on that point ...

The real dilemna will be for SF.Yelling Brits out!and welcoming prince Harry and that one he got married to.
Ah yes, Irish logic . One of the few good things about the church was they were anti-marxist, so i reckon they would not be too happy with Connelly.
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He was apprently discussing this very point of view with the prision chaplin in Kilmainham,before his execution...gotta give it to him,he never gave up.
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No bother.

You and over a MILLION others done the same. Lower turnout than in 2016 at 62.2%.

Shocking. How people have such apathy for how their country is run that they don't bother to vote. If you're not sure go with a gut feeling, but for the love of God, vote.

If i hear one person moaning about how things go in 6 months, a year, three years, and they didn't vote................ well .......... yeah is all i'll say for now.

No, it's wasteful. On a par with not voting.

By not voting or spoiling a vote you have handed a vote to those you don't wish to see in power.
Had a rethink on my stance, yer right. I'm going to engage in future.
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If we're to believe FF, you may get your chance sooner than you thought.... With Michael Martin making noise about another election already.

While I'm not convinced that another election in a few weeks or months time, would see many people change from who they voted for this time around, I do think that if we could get more people to get out and use their vote, it would help give a clear picture of what our nation wants.
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If we're to believe FF, you may get your chance sooner than you thought.... With Michael Martin making noise about another election already.

While I'm not convinced that another election in a few weeks or months time, would see many people change from who they voted for this time around, I do think that if we could get more people to get out and use their vote, it would help give a clear picture of what our nation wants.
Too late, the cats out of the bag. SF will run more candidates and clean up.
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