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If a man wants a woman......

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 282 ✭✭Anthonylfc


    Disagree. Anyone I've dated I've never been attracted to / immediately interested in on meeting, it has only been after I get to know them that I notice I find their face pretty too.



    Different strokes.



    My point still stands, no person looks 'ugly'.

    same with me and 2 ex's

    more we met more we clicked etc

    now its swipe left or right ( shallow biaaatches )

    unless you are a geordie shore reject these days you never get a look in


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 282 ✭✭Anthonylfc


    jester77 wrote: »
    You know when they play hard to get, and you start to get a bit more persistent and then they get up and leave the pub, appearing as if they are playing even harder to get. Well, the part where you follow them outside and run down the street after them is called the chase.

    harrassment more like :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 282 ✭✭Anthonylfc


    I met a guy through an app a while back who I really liked and we got on well, but a few days later, he decided to go exclusive with a woman he'd been seeing a bit longer. We sent the odd message back and forth and he texted a few weeks ago to say he was single again and up for going for a drink or something if I fancied it. I didn't take it badly, and in fact it was a plus point for me that he was upfront and honest and not trying to string us both along while he decided. I'm not going to pursue it for other reasons, but I wish more people would just be honest. No need for the lying and game playing that goes on.

    cause you were second best and still bitter that's why


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Why are men calling themselves stupid? There's about the same level of stupidity among men as there is among women surely.

    That's not always true though. Some people might be very attractive in terms of character but their looks are what's noticeable first.

    I know the line about it being romantic if he's good-looking but sleazy harassment if he's not, gets used as a stick to beat women with, but there's more than an element of truth to it.

    Not that it doesn't apply to men either though - if she's gorgeous, nice one; if she's not attractive, ew, get her away.

    Men will ride the ugly one on occasions. It depends on testosterone (horny) levels at that moment in time and blood alcohol content.

    What they won't do is go out with them. They'll pretend to lose the number and hope to god that they never run into the poor girl again.

    Which is horrible behaviour really, not nice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭aloneforever99


    Floppybits wrote: »
    To me it would be rape or the high end of sexual assault and I hope the Poster that it happened too called the police and had the scumbag and his 2 mates charged.

    I would call it sexual assault. And no, I didn't ring the police. I was about 22 at the time, I had been drinking, was dressed for a night out and I assumed the three lads would stick together and it would be three voices against one.

    I didn't think there was much chance I'd be taken seriously.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Johnnyhpipe


    No such thing as ugly. One woman's 'ugly' is another woman's brutally handsome.

    .

    ...you haven’t seen me.... :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    Anthonylfc wrote: »
    cause you were second best and still bitter that's why

    You're not just a misogynist but you're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? Literally wrote an entire post about how I appreciated the honesty. I'm not going to pursue anything because I'm seriously ill in hospital and don't know when or if I'll be well enough. That alright with you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Ariadne


    You're not just a misogynist but you're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? Literally wrote an entire post about how I appreciated the honesty. I'm not going to pursue anything because I'm seriously ill in hospital and don't know when or if I'll be well enough. That alright with you?

    I'm sorry to hear that you're so ill Lainey and I hope you manage to improve your health as much as you can.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 282 ✭✭Anthonylfc


    You're not just a misogynist but you're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? Literally wrote an entire post about how I appreciated the honesty. I'm not going to pursue anything because I'm seriously ill in hospital and don't know when or if I'll be well enough. That alright with you?

    in fairness , of course you'll say you appreciate the honesty , but the fact is you were second choice and we all hate being that

    ps , hope you get better soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    Anthonylfc wrote: »
    in fairness , of course you'll say you appreciate the honesty , but the fact is you were second choice and we all hate being that

    ps , hope you get better soon

    That's a really childish way of seeing things. I've met people I really liked while seeing someone else and decided to stick with the first person, sometimes out of a sense of loyalty or from wondering if I'm just thinking the grass is greener and looking for reasons not to commit to the person I'm already seeing. Doesn't reflect on the second person in any way. It's just circumstances. I've always noticed that you can be single for months on end and then meet 2-3 decent people all around the same time. Always seems to happen to me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    You're not just a misogynist but you're also not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? Literally wrote an entire post about how I appreciated the honesty. I'm not going to pursue anything because I'm seriously ill in hospital and don't know when or if I'll be well enough. That alright with you?

    Get better soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭ginandtonicsky


    buried wrote: »
    I know, I don't understand it either. Its the height of $hittyness for it to happen too. You have to block them totally then and it just leaves a bad vibe, whereas before, it was grand to go separate ways. I must just be attracted to drama seekers on some sort of level lol

    Why don't you ask them next time? When the next one comes crawling back months later, just flat out ask her why she's getting in touch when she was pretty decisive about it not being a match a few short months ago.

    I'd say that behaviour is driven by this dating FOMO that is so common nowadays because of the apps. No-one wants to commit to anything real because they want to "explore their options" and they become ridiculously picky because the options seem to never end.

    So these women were seeing other lads and one of them was winning the race for a while, but that didn't work out for whatever reason. Maybe that fella was also seeing a bunch of women and didn't choose her. So she looks in her dating pool and thinks "I'm sick of being messed around, Buried was a nice lad, seemed into me, maybe I should give him another chance".

    Sorry if it sounds harsh, it's nothing to do with you at all and is just the way of the world now :rolleyes: Literally every person I know who is single and dating has had to put up with this kind of crap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    I would call it sexual assault. And no, I didn't ring the police. I was about 22 at the time, I had been drinking, was dressed for a night out and I assumed the three lads would stick together and it would be three voices against one.

    I didn't think there was much chance I'd be taken seriously.

    Horrible.

    People like to rabbit on about 'me too' as if it's all a bit of a joke or women being over dramatic, but it's scary how this kind of sh1t was the norm not that long ago. I remember one of my first nights out in college when I had just turned 18, some random man started talking to me while I was waiting for a drink. Out of nowhere, he grabbed me, kissed me on the lips and stuck his hand down my pants before walking away laughing as if it was hilarious. At the time, my friends just wrote it off as something you have to put up with if you go out. I mean, Jesus Christ. This was 2003, not 40 years ago. Teenage girls thinking being sexually assaulted by strangers was normal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    i ca
    Horrible.

    People like to rabbit on about 'me too' as if it's all a bit of a joke or women being over dramatic, but it's scary how this kind of sh1t was the norm not that long ago. I remember one of my first nights out in college when I had just turned 18, some random man started talking to me while I was waiting for a drink. Out of nowhere, he grabbed me, kissed me on the lips and stuck his hand down my pants before walking away laughing as if it was hilarious. At the time, my friends just wrote it off as something you have to put up with if you go out. I mean, Jesus Christ. This was 2003, not 40 years ago. Teenage girls thinking being sexually assaulted by strangers was normal.


    I can't understand this behavior and how people (men and women) think that this sort of behavior was ever OK?


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭aloneforever99


    Floppybits wrote: »
    i ca


    I can't understand this behavior and how people (men and women) think that this sort of behavior was ever OK?

    I had mostly forgotten about it, it was a long time ago, until a guy I was dating last year told me a very similar story and genuinely was telling it as a sort of light-hearted banter type thing about colleagues of his at work.

    He didn't see it as sexual assault at all. It wasn't that he was a total d1ck, it was pure ignorance. I told him immediately it was. He said something to the effect of "Ah no, if you knew the guy you'd understand why it was funny."

    This was around the time the Belfast trial was on and we were gearing up to the 8th ref, and it really effected me badly/ brought back up that stuff I'd never really talked about before.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,364 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Horrible.

    People like to rabbit on about 'me too' as if it's all a bit of a joke or women being over dramatic, but it's scary how this kind of sh1t was the norm not that long ago. I remember one of my first nights out in college when I had just turned 18, some random man started talking to me while I was waiting for a drink. Out of nowhere, he grabbed me, kissed me on the lips and stuck his hand down my pants before walking away laughing as if it was hilarious. At the time, my friends just wrote it off as something you have to put up with if you go out. I mean, Jesus Christ. This was 2003, not 40 years ago. Teenage girls thinking being sexually assaulted by strangers was normal.


    I'd say a lot of women have stories like that. Similar happened to me a couple of times, guys just hopped on your face and within seconds had his hand down at your groin as if this was some super romantic way to get a woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    I had mostly forgotten about it, it was a long time ago, until a guy I was dating last year told me a very similar story and genuinely was telling it as a sort of light-hearted banter type thing about colleagues of his at work.

    He didn't see it as sexual assault at all. It wasn't that he was a total d1ck, it was pure ignorance. I told him immediately it was. He said something to the effect of "Ah no, if you knew the guy you'd understand why it was funny."

    This was around the time the Belfast trial was on and we were gearing up to the 8th ref, and it really effected me badly/ brought back up that stuff I'd never really talked about before.

    I think a lot of us women stuff a lot of truly crappy things right back into the deepest recesses of the cupboard where the skeletons live, some of which we genuinely almost forget until something suddenly unveils it. I am sure it is the same for a lot of guys too, actually. It's a jungle out there. Surviving is a bloody triumph.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,364 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I had mostly forgotten about it, it was a long time ago, until a guy I was dating last year told me a very similar story and genuinely was telling it as a sort of light-hearted banter type thing about colleagues of his at work.

    He didn't see it as sexual assault at all. It wasn't that he was a total d1ck, it was pure ignorance. I told him immediately it was. He said something to the effect of "Ah no, if you knew the guy you'd understand why it was funny."

    This was around the time the Belfast trial was on and we were gearing up to the 8th ref, and it really effected me badly/ brought back up that stuff I'd never really talked about before.


    The Belfast trial really brought to me how many men I know don't consider sexual assault, sexual assault.

    They really are oblivious to the way some other men behave as well "Well I mean you've clearly never had a man twice your size and strength try to bully...I meant forcibly convince you into having sex with him, lads."


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭aloneforever99


    The Belfast trial really brought to me how many men I know don't consider sexual assault, sexual assault.

    That was actually what upset me most about this guy I was dating thinking it was a funny story. Because he's a GOOD GUY. And I got really depressed thinking "If the good guys don't understand that this is sexual assault, what hope is there with the bast@rds out there?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,667 ✭✭✭buried


    Why don't you ask them next time? When the next one comes crawling back months later, just flat out ask her why she's getting in touch when she was pretty decisive about it not being a match a few short months ago.

    I'd say that behaviour is driven by this dating FOMO that is so common nowadays because of the apps. No-one wants to commit to anything real because they want to "explore their options" and they become ridiculously picky because the options seem to never end.

    So these women were seeing other lads and one of them was winning the race for a while, but that didn't work out for whatever reason. Maybe that fella was also seeing a bunch of women and didn't choose her. So she looks in her dating pool and thinks "I'm sick of being messed around, Buried was a nice lad, seemed into me, maybe I should give him another chance".

    Sorry if it sounds harsh, it's nothing to do with you at all and is just the way of the world now :rolleyes: Literally every person I know who is single and dating has had to put up with this kind of crap.

    Nah not at all. I can be harsh enough myself and stubborn to go with it too, that's why I just block and do not engage when they come back. I don't want to know why they turn back my way after a while. To me that's just a pure sign of a flip flopper, not good enough one minute then magically good enough the next. They'll do it again IMO.
    I think now I'll just hang up the boots. Like you said, there's too much crap going on, swiping from one to the next, nobody happy with their lot once it becomes too familiar. Seems to be the way with everything now, not even just dating! I like me freedom to much to have to deal with any of it!

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    buried wrote: »
    Nah not at all. I can be harsh enough myself and stubborn to go with it too, that's why I just block and do not engage when they come back. I don't want to know why they turn back my way after a while. To me that's just a pure sign of a flip flopper, not good enough one minute then magically good enough the next. They'll do it again IMO.
    I think now I'll just hang up the boots. Like you said, there's too much crap going on, swiping from one to the next, nobody happy with their lot once it becomes too familiar. Seems to be the way with everything now, not even just dating! I like me freedom to much to have to deal with any of it!

    Dead right once one person has said they don't see the relationship going anywhere, that's it, done and dusted go your separate ways.

    I think if it was me in that situation i think i would be insulted if a woman i dated and told me I wasn't good enough for her suddenly decided that i might be a few months later and out of the blue wanted to give me another chance.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 282 ✭✭Anthonylfc


    has boards ever looked into a members match making service :D

    people listing age , where they are , sex and let them pm each other ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭rapul


    To be fair it's not just women who have bad stuff happen to them. Shouldn't happen to anyone but bit of male bashing there above slightly


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭valoren


    Everytime I see the thread title I sing it like Percy Sledge. "If a Maaaaan wants a woman....."


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    jester77 wrote: »
    You know when they play hard to get, and you start to get a bit more persistent and then they get up and leave the pub, appearing as if they are playing even harder to get. Well, the part where you follow them outside and run down the street after them is called the chase.

    I left a pub one time as a lady was coming on a bit strong even though I explained I had a GF. She followed me down the street. It was a tab creepy.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭aloneforever99


    rapul wrote: »
    To be fair it's not just women who have bad stuff happen to them. Shouldn't happen to anyone but bit of male bashing there above slightly

    Literally no one has said only women have bad stuff happen to them. And I've pointed out twice that I consider the guy I'm talking about to generally be a good guy. Don't #notallmen this - it's just a way of shutting women up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I know the line about it being romantic if he's good-looking but sleazy harassment if he's not, gets used as a stick to beat women with, but there's more than an element of truth to it.

    Not that it doesn't apply to men either though - if she's gorgeous, nice one; if she's not attractive, ew, get her away.

    People like people they're attracted to, not controversial, but it's more a case that a lot of people react adversely to the ones they're not interested in rather than accept behaviour that's completely out of line from the hot ones.
    If you're minding your own business and suddenly Tom Cruise aggressively leaps out of a darkened closet onto you like a rabid Spider Monkey you don't just roll with it because it's Tom Cruise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Anthonylfc wrote: »
    has boards ever looked into a members match making service :D

    people listing age , where they are , sex and let them pm each other ?

    Hey Anthony.....good win last night.....a/s/l? ;)

    AH is in the Social & Fun section so what could be more social and fun than Boardsies bumping uglies?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Don't #notallmen this - it's just a way of shutting women up.

    I'm 6'5, wtf is wrong with tall men?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,667 ✭✭✭buried


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Dead right once one person has said they don't see the relationship going anywhere, that's it, done and dusted go your separate ways.

    I think if it was me in that situation i think i would be insulted if a woman i dated and told me I wasn't good enough for her suddenly decided that i might be a few months later and out of the blue wanted to give me another chance.

    Yeah you are right it is insulting. Especially if it's one you really liked and thought something could maybe go somewhere. Ya get the auld heave ho and have to deal with that, and do your best to get over it and move on. Then when you do, BANG, they back in your zone. Its fairly $hitty when it's one you liked because you got to start all end over again.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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