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Boxing Thread 13/11 (Crawford-Brook, Katie Taylor, Heffron-Bentley II)

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    #92
    ~Rebel~
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I think that's a given

    Sorry, know SFA about women's boxing and had never heard of 'cyborg'. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that's not the name she was born with...

    Cris Cyborg from Brazil - she’s an MMA fighter. And yup, that’s her stage name.


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    #93
    [Deleted User]
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    If Amanda Nunes could KO Cybord with 4oz gloves in the first few minutes then Taylor would make her look silly in a boxing match no matter how long it would go on for.


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    #94
    ~Rebel~
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If Amanda Nunes could KO Cybord with 4oz gloves in the first few minutes then Taylor would make her look silly in a boxing match no matter how long it would go on for.

    Yeah, it feels a bit too much Mayweather McGregor for my liking... a boxer will always have too much skill and experience for a non-boxer. Even a powerhouse like Cyborg.


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    #95
    walshb
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    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Yeah, it feels a bit too much Mayweather McGregor for my liking... a boxer will always have too much skill and experience for a non-boxer. Even a powerhouse like Cyborg.

    But not every crossover fight is the same..

    Floyd is a defensive genius...the only hope Conor had was a Hail Mary KO...and very very unlikely you land that on someone like Mayweather..

    Katie is not remotely as sound on defense as Floyd. And, she is not at all a puncher..hence a Nunes or Cyborg would likely not be hurt, and would likely still be there in the ring throwing punches.

    So, skills wise in boxing she has more than a Cyborg or Nunes, but for either them to land hard and clean on Katie should not at all be a surprise..

    Put it this way. A Nunes or Cyborg would absolutely be more dangerous than what Katie faces tonight...and Katie fought like a demon and still that lass lasted 10 rounds..

    Nunes or Cyborg with training.... nobody is telling me they would not have a chance...And a better chance than that mandatory challenger tonight!


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    #96
    colly10
    Registered Users Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭colly10


    patmac wrote: »
    I just find it hypocritical that you would want to try and beat the hell out of someone and be a Christian as well. I used to hate Holyfield for it as well.
    Also if Gueterrez is the best they can offer as a contender, then the term ‘Lamb to the slaughter ‘ comes to mind.

    It’s a sport, it’s not personal or out of hatred.
    For the short while I was fighting I loved when I landed something to hurt an opponent, it had little to do with hurting them though and more to do with proving to yourself that all the hours you put in trying to outtrain the rest are having an affect.
    You chat after the fight and there’s no animosity, less than I had against players from rival football teams when I played.
    You’re taking about boxing like it’s similar to fighting someone on the street


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    #97
    patmac
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    colly10 wrote: »
    It’s a sport, it’s not personal or out of hatred.
    For the short while I was fighting I loved when I landed something to hurt an opponent, it had little to do with hurting them though and more to do with proving to yourself that all the hours you put in trying to outtrain the rest are having an affect.
    You chat after the fight and there’s no animosity, less than I had against players from rival football teams when I played.
    You’re taking about boxing like it’s similar to fighting someone on the street

    Thanks for the insightful, refreshing post. It’s nice to read something objective instead of the abuse you get.


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    #98
    Man with broke phone
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    colly10 wrote: »
    It’s a sport, it’s not personal or out of hatred.
    For the short while I was fighting I loved when I landed something to hurt an opponent, it had little to do with hurting them though and more to do with proving to yourself that all the hours you put in trying to outtrain the rest are having an affect.
    You chat after the fight and there’s no animosity, less than I had against players from rival football teams when I played.
    You’re taking about boxing like it’s similar to fighting someone on the street

    I tell alot of young lads fighting at football matches where the boxing club is, very few venture down. More footballers want to fight after a match than boxers do.


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    #99
    kona
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    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Yeah, it feels a bit too much Mayweather McGregor for my liking... a boxer will always have too much skill and experience for a non-boxer. Even a powerhouse like Cyborg.

    Id still pay for it.


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    #100
    Morrison J
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    Maloney should get the TKO win here. Clearly a punch that shut Franco's eye.


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    #101
    simongurnick
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    Morrison J wrote: »
    Maloney should get the TKO win here. Clearly a punch that shut Franco's eye.

    Hope so. I have a tenner on him at 9/1 for ko/tko!


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    #102
    blade1
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    Some rigamarole here.
    How many more phonecalls does it take .


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    #103
    simongurnick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    Tim Bradley is losing his mind


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    #104
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    There's not enough cameras to be certain nothing happened with the head clash even though you know it was the punch that did it.
    They won't change it.


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    #105
    blade1
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    Joke!


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    #106
    simongurnick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    Worst decision I've ever see . Bradley called it. Protecting the ref


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    #107
    simongurnick
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    There's not enough cameras to be certain nothing happened with the head clash even though you know it was the punch that did it.
    They won't change it.

    There wasn't a single camera shot of a clash to the right of his head. Every head connection was on the other side.


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    #108
    eagle eye
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    simongurnick wrote:
    Worst decision I've ever see . Bradley called it. Protecting the ref
    It's not that, it's that you must be 100% to overturn it. Very hard to be 100% when you don't have all the angles.


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    #109
    Morrison J
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    Took them 26 mins to come to the wrong decision. Disgrace.


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    #110
    Morrison J
    Registered Users Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's not that, it's that you must be 100% to overturn it. Very hard to be 100% when you don't have all the angles.

    There was no angles because the headbutt didn't exist. Shocking call.


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    #111
    eagle eye
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    simongurnick wrote:
    There wasn't a single camera shot of a clash to the right of his head. Every head connection was on the other side.
    There was a clash of heads where the only camera angle showed Maloney's head going across his face. You can't be 100% certain there was no contact there. In order to overturn the decision it has to be certain.
    I know it was the punch, 99% certain of that, that did it but that's not how the replay rules work.


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    #112
    simongurnick
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's not that, it's that you must be 100% to overturn it. Very hard to be 100% when you don't have all the angles.

    Overturn what? It didn't happen. What angle did they need? There wasn't even a camera shot where you would say " well I can't see it". Total joke. Worse than var


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    #113
    simongurnick
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    There was a clash of heads where the only camera angle showed Maloney's head going across his face. You can't be 100% certain there was no contact there. In order to overturn the decision it has to be certain.
    I know it was the punch, 99% certain of that, that did it but that's not how the replay rules work.

    Can't agree man. These guys have been in the game all their lives. You dont get a swollen eye from a brush of heads.
    End of the day, they protected the ref. Andre ward, Tim bradley all agree.


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    #114
    eagle eye
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    I'm in agreement that the punch did the damage.
    I'm not arguing against that, I'm saying that the way thru have the rules set up for replay to change a decision means it's never likely to happen.
    Actually an overhead camera might be the answer.


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    #115
    simongurnick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    Screw it. Looking forward to the main event. Poor Maloney though. Lad was almost in tears.


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    #116
    eagle eye
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    simongurnick wrote:
    Screw it. Looking forward to the main event. Poor Maloney though. Lad was almost in tears.
    Yeah, my heart goes out to him.


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    #117
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    As for this one, step too far again for Kell. I think Crawford takes him out inside six.


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    #118
    simongurnick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    Prediction Crawford in 8/9


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    #119
    blade1
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    Brook 2 up


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    #120
    Blanco100
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    fair dues to Brook, absolutely terrific start. Will be hard to maintain this pace though.


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    #121
    blade1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,101 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Special K (O'd)


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