Willie Frazer has died

careless sherpa · 10-07-2019 4:15pm

janfebmar wrote: »

"make hard not tail"? Do try harder with your grammar, steddyeddy.

Frazer served in the army for 9 years as far as I remember, and back then most if not all security force personnel were entitled to be armed off duty, as far as I know.

Goes to show the calibre of people they were letting into the army. Give an unstable sectarian bigot a gun and a bit of authority

FrancieBrady · 10-07-2019 4:16pm

There is proof and a reason why Willie didn't have one. i.e. His connection to paramilitaries.

Firearms are available to those connected in the past to paramilitaries though, as evidenced.

steddyeddy · 10-07-2019 4:24pm

janfebmar wrote: »

Most former army members do not need one. There is no proof Gerry Adam's TD has one either.

Maybe they don't need one but I'm sure most aren't denied one because they were associates of terrorists. Put it this way it's more likely that Adams has one rather than Frazer

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realdanbreen · 10-07-2019 4:28pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is proof and a reason why Willie didn't have one. i.e. His connection to paramilitaries.

Firearms are available to those connected in the past to paramilitaries though, as evidenced.

The fact that he was half mad probably didn't help either!

FrancieBrady · 10-07-2019 4:32pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

The fact that he was half mad probably didn't help either!

'Mad' with bitterness and hate. No doubt about that.

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 4:39pm

careless sherpa wrote: »

Goes to show the calibre of people they were letting into the army. Give an unstable sectarian bigot a gun and a bit of authority

Ah now, just because Fraser went to a Catholic national school and played GAA does not make him a sectarian bigot. He said many times and others said of him, it was not Catholics he hated, it was the pira / extremist Republicans. Probably understandable as they killed his father and 5 other close family members.

steddyeddy · 10-07-2019 4:40pm

janfebmar wrote: »

Ah now, just because Fraser went to a Catholic national school and played GAA does not make him a sectarian bigot.

Showing your true colours now J.

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 4:54pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Showing your true colours now J.

It is true about Fraser, he did play GAA. Does that make him a bigot? I don't think so.

steddyeddy · 10-07-2019 4:57pm

janfebmar wrote: »

It is true about Fraser, he did play GAA. Does that make him a bigot? I don't think so.

I don't know what you think J. Previous versions of you have ranged from a Gerry Adams admiring unionist, to a Willie Frazer admiring nationalist.

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 5:19pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

I don't know what you think J. Previous versions of you have ranged from a Gerry Adams admiring unionist, to a Willie Frazer admiring nationalist.

Other versions of you include a sf admirer / defender, with 20,000 posts defending Sinn Fein, and pira activities in the past, yet you never voted SF in your life. Or so you say.

Pedro K · 10-07-2019 5:30pm

janfebmar wrote: »

The journalist thought Adam's had a gun licence. Evidence from when he was shot indicate he probably had not. I could'nt care less if he has or not, but if you state he has, you should provide a link to that effect.

Like if you state that 99% of people in NI are denied firearms licences for the specific reason that they associate with paramilitaries, you should provide a link to that effect. Otherwise, give your head a wobble. Your inconsistency is ridiculous.

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 5:47pm

Pedro K wrote: »

Like if you state that 99% of people in NI are denied firearms licences for the specific reason that they associate with paramilitaries, you should provide a link to that effect. Otherwise, give your head a wobble. Your inconsistency is ridiculous.

99% of civilians (non security related) have no need for a firearms licence. The government is trying to, and has, reduced the amount of firearms licences. See the Northern Ireland Order 2004, as far as I remember.

FrancieBrady · 10-07-2019 5:52pm

:D:D:D:D Steddyeddy has 20,000 posts defending Sinn Fein, and pira activities in the past.

:D:D

We can see who Willie left his scattergun of spurious allegations to anyhow.

Pedro K · 10-07-2019 5:53pm

janfebmar wrote: »

99% of civilians (non security related) have no need for a firearms licence. The government is trying to, and has, reduced the amount of firearms licences. See the Northern Ireland Order 2004, as far as I remember.

Except that's not what you said, is it?

steddyeddy · 10-07-2019 6:31pm

janfebmar wrote: »

99% of civilians (non security related) have no need for a firearms licence. The government is trying to, and has, reduced the amount of firearms licences. See the Northern Ireland Order 2004, as far as I remember.

99% have no need? Glad to know Gerry Adams was one of the 1% who do need one.

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 6:59pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:D:D:D:D Steddyeddy has 20,000 posts defending Sinn Fein, and pira activities in the past. :D:D

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It has already been questioned if davycc and you are the same, what about you and steddyeddy?

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 7:01pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

99% have no need? Glad to know Gerry Adams was one of the 1% who do need one.

Other TDs do not have one, I doubt if he has one either.
When he was attacked once in N Ireland he did not have one.

FrancieBrady · 10-07-2019 7:06pm

Poster has inherited the tinfoil hat too, it seems.

pablo128 · 10-07-2019 7:10pm

janfebmar wrote: »

I never followed him on Facebook.

You probably never heard of him before this thread started.

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 7:11pm

Deflection, fails to answer point. Do try harder Francie.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 10-07-2019 7:13pm

janfebmar wrote: »

Other TDs do not have one, I doubt if he has one either.
When he was attacked once in N Ireland he did not have one.

Mary. Are you not joining the marching up north? Join in with the fleg burners?.

They’d be delighted to see you no doubt, and admire those lovely fenian tones.

You can also look around British Ireland and see if it’s the place for you.

FrancieBrady · 10-07-2019 7:14pm

pablo128 wrote: »

You probably never heard of him before this thread started.

The poster has shown herself to be spectacularly uninformed on the subject alright.

Seeing Frazer as only a victim campaigner is just ludicrious. His primary effect on Irish life was as a loyalist agitator.

janfebmar · 10-07-2019 7:44pm

pablo128 wrote: »

You probably never heard of him before this thread started.

Of course I had heard of him, he is quite well known. Even before the Love Ulster victims parade. Unlike Francie though, I have better things to be doing than following him on social media. A bit creepy for a known supporter of the pIRA (someone who supported pIRA actions) to be following a victims spokesperson on social media, but there you go.

FanadMan · 12-07-2019 3:21am

There is something wrong in the last few pages. There has been no mention of the genocide (according to some people).

Jesus, there has been enough death and destruction from both sides. Some seem to want to keep the ****e going - Real/New IRA, Unionists/Loyalists/Orangemen....you all just want to keep stirring the pot of **** and pick at the scabs.

Why the hell don't the lot of you just **** off and die and just leave 21st century people to get on with things. You lot are living 20+ years ago and all that ****e should be left where it is......in the history books.

FrancieBrady · 12-07-2019 9:07am

FanadMan wrote: »

There is something wrong in the last few pages. There has been no mention of the genocide (according to some people).

Jesus, there has been enough death and destruction from both sides. Some seem to want to keep the ****e going - Real/New IRA, Unionists/Loyalists/Orangemen....you all just want to keep stirring the pot of **** and pick at the scabs.

Why the hell don't the lot of you just **** off and die and just leave 21st century people to get on with things. You lot are living 20+ years ago and all that ****e should be left where it is......in the history books.

You alright there?

08-10-2019 6:26am

Far from being an unhinged "victims' campaigner" whom we can laugh at, it seems from BBC Spotlight this week that the real Willie Frazer was responsible for the murder of numerous innocent Irish nationalists.

MI5 destroyed material on NI security force collusion – BBC documentary

The programme also revealed that victims campaigner Willie Frazer was former UDA commander Johnny Adair’s contact within the loyalist paramilitary group Ulster Resistance in the 1990s, and was its key distributor of automatic rifles and rocket launchers.

Adair told the programme the weapons it received from Ulster Resistance were “a Godsend” and led to an escalation of loyalist violence.

Jimmy Garlic · 08-10-2019 6:56am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxpYW_w5pgo

Scoundrel · 08-10-2019 8:38am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Far from being an unhinged "victims' campaigner" whom we can laugh at, it seems from BBC Spotlight this week that the real Willie Frazer was responsible for the murder of numerous innocent Irish nationalists.

MI5 destroyed material on NI security force collusion – BBC documentary

Yeah I wonder will his defenders on here and elsewhere be as loud now the shameful spectacle of media and politicians describing this murdering bastard as a victims campaigner was sickening over 70 innocent Catholics murdered with guns this animal gave to DUP/UDA.

blinding · 08-10-2019 8:56am

At least he has not Resurrected ! When I saw the thread I thought he might be back !

SharpshooterTom · 08-10-2019 8:59am

https://twitter.com/SJAMcBride/status/1181343731498307584
https://twitter.com/Mon_The_Hoops81/status/1181443067074813953

I'm the OP to this thread as I mentioned earlier I hated his politics but thought he wasn't anything much more than a crazy sectarian blowhard, but if this stuff is true then certainly I would withdraw any sympathy for his death.

I don't hate people based on their background or whatever their political affiliations are, but I absolutely draw the line at those who think violence is acceptable in furthering their political aims especially killing innocent civilians.

Willie Frazer has died

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