Willie Frazer has died

Infini · 08-10-2019 10:28pm

Willie Fraizer kicks the bucket.

Nothing of importance was lost.

The end.

blinding · 08-10-2019 10:30pm

Infini wrote: »

Willie Fraizer kicks the bucket.

Nothing of importance was lost.

The end.

Sorry for the bucket .

dd973 · 09-10-2019 2:45am

Been watching the excellent 'Secret History' programme on BBC4, apparently Frazer was responsible for getting guns from the 1987 South African arms cache to UDA members which were used in loads of attacks from 88-94, mostly needless to explain, harebrained sectarian ones.

The shipment was split three ways between Ulster Resistance whose plan was to secrete them for a doomsday scenario, the UDA and UVF, the UDA's were intercepted by the RUC, the UVF lost theirs (!) but Frazer was a high ranking member of UR.

padd b1975 · 09-10-2019 3:03am

blinding wrote: »

And the son buyable for a holiday .

Check out his parody twitter account, it's one of the funniest around.

Go with God.

Yer Da sells Avon · 09-10-2019 3:14am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

They were all rats anyway

Sidenote, met Jonny Adair when i was at a wedding in Scotland. Nice personable guy. Had a chat for a couple of minutes

I had the pleasure of meeting Willie Frazer at a charity do once. He was surprisingly down to earth, and very funny.

blinding · 09-10-2019 7:41am

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I had the pleasure of meeting Willie Frazer at a charity do once. He was surprisingly down to earth, and very funny.

Well he had two faces !

realdanbreen · 09-10-2019 9:21am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Same. Adair being the cretinous attention seeker he is, this was inevitable.

If the money is right Adair will sing like a canary all day. Those steroids don't come cheap.

Elmer Blooker · 09-10-2019 10:24am

dd973 wrote: »

Been watching the excellent 'Secret History' programme on BBC4, apparently Frazer was responsible for getting guns from the 1987 South African arms cache to UDA members which were used in loads of attacks from 88-94, mostly needless to explain, harebrained sectarian ones.

The shipment was split three ways between Ulster Resistance whose plan was to secrete them for a doomsday scenario, the UDA and UVF, the UDA's were intercepted by the RUC, the UVF lost theirs (!) but Frazer was a high ranking member of UR.

Do explain how Greysteel, Loughinisland and innocent Catholics getting gunned down in front of their children were 'doomsday scenarios".

Beechwoodspark · 09-10-2019 10:29am

realdanbreen wrote: »

If the money is right Adair will sing like a canary all day. Those steroids don't come cheap.

From the look of him last night he’s not long for this world. Blood pressure alone must be off the charts

Odhinn · 09-10-2019 3:20pm

blinding wrote: »

And the son buyable for a holiday .

...big holiday though. Wasn't exactly a week in santa ponsa.

Junkyard Tom · 09-10-2019 3:46pm

I mean, if they were targeting Republicans you'd kinda say 'well, you know, that's war' but these sectarian murderers sated their bloodlust by murdering ordinary people who happened to be born into the wrong religion.

The fact is that a lot of unionists considered the Catholic population as legitimate targets for execution because they were disloyal subhumans who needed to be taught a lesson. Not much different to how colonists treated natives for all of history.

Raconteuse · 09-10-2019 3:49pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I mean, if they were targeting Republicans you'd kinda say 'well, you know, that's war' but these sectarian murderers sated their bloodlust by murdering ordinary people who happened to be born into the wrong religion.

The fact is that a lot of unionists considered the Catholic population as legitimate targets for execution because they were disloyal subhumans who needed to be taught a lesson. Not much different to how colonists treated natives for all of history.

And ironically you could not get more slackjawed yokel than certain hardline loyalists.

Junkyard Tom · 09-10-2019 4:50pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

And ironically you could not get more slackjawed yokel than certain hardline loyalists.

Thick as mince and with a superiority complex, a dangerous mix. Not unlike Cork people in many ways.

Odhinn · 09-10-2019 5:05pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Thick as mince and with a superiority complex, a dangerous mix. Not unlike Cork people in many ways. ðŸ˜

Careful now.

Fionn1952 · 09-10-2019 6:42pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I mean, if they were targeting Republicans you'd kinda say 'well, you know, that's war' but these sectarian murderers sated their bloodlust by murdering ordinary people who happened to be born into the wrong religion.

The fact is that a lot of unionists considered the Catholic population as legitimate targets for execution because they were disloyal subhumans who needed to be taught a lesson. Not much different to how colonists treated natives for all of history.

'Lesser breeds that have learned to read in recent years' I believe was the quote used by a close friend of his, 'Pastor' Barrie Halliday.

Beechwoodspark · 09-10-2019 8:04pm

These “pastors” and “reverends” up there -self generated titles - scam artists -bigoted embittered fools mainly

Raconteuse · 09-10-2019 8:15pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Thick as mince and with a superiority complex, a dangerous mix. Not unlike Cork people in many ways.

Wo... I'd be the first to throw out insults at them, but insulting loyalists by comparing them to Cork people is a bridge too far. Sectarian bigots are still humans you know! :mad:

Beechwoodspark · 09-10-2019 8:16pm

Don’t know If anyone has had experience of debating with these so called pastors - becomes clear after 1-2 minutes they are scam artists trading on the “profession” of pastor but with zero knowledge/skills/experience. Be wary

dd973 · 09-10-2019 11:20pm

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Do explain how Greysteel, Loughinisland and innocent Catholics getting gunned down in front of their children were 'doomsday scenarios".

Their words not mine, this can be attributed to Paisley, Robinson et al.

steddyeddy · 10-10-2019 5:22pm

dd973 wrote: »

Been watching the excellent 'Secret History' programme on BBC4, apparently Frazer was responsible for getting guns from the 1987 South African arms cache to UDA members which were used in loads of attacks from 88-94, mostly needless to explain, harebrained sectarian ones.

The shipment was split three ways between Ulster Resistance whose plan was to secrete them for a doomsday scenario, the UDA and UVF, the UDA's were intercepted by the RUC, the UVF lost theirs (!) but Frazer was a high ranking member of UR.

So in short Willie had no problems with terrorism.

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-10-2019 7:25pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

So in short Willie had no problems with terrorism.

Nor has the whole of the Republic of Ireland. They started it all in 1916, so cant complain if they dont like the tactics employed by those only trying to even things out. Its all fine and dandy to be anti terrorism when you have no need for it, yet glorify your own terrorists of the past as heros, patriots, and role models.

pablo128 · 10-10-2019 7:34pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Nor has the whole of the Republic of Ireland. They started it all in 1916, so cant complain if they dont like the tactics employed by those only trying to even things out. Its all fine and dandy to be anti terrorism when you have no need for it, yet glorify your own terrorists of the past as heros, patriots, and role models.

He was handing out lethal firearms to scum so they could shoot Catholics to death. While accepting money on the pretence of helping victims of the atrocities.

That's ever so slightly different to drunkenly singing 'come out ye black and tans' at a session.

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-10-2019 7:38pm

pablo128 wrote: »

That's ever so slightly different to drunkenly singing 'come out ye black and tans' at a session.

That was the worst thing Michael Collins ever did was it ?

steddyeddy · 10-10-2019 8:01pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Nor has the whole of the Republic of Ireland. They started it all in 1916, so cant complain if they dont like the tactics employed by those only trying to even things out. Its all fine and dandy to be anti terrorism when you have no need for it, yet glorify your own terrorists of the past as heros, patriots, and role models.

Hilarious man. Willie Frazer made an entire career on stating how bad terrorism is. Turns out he was a major supporter of it. As for your non-sequitur about our past I don't think shooting people because they're Catholic compares to a revolution to overthrow a tyrannical state.

pablo128 · 10-10-2019 8:06pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

That was the worst thing Michael Collins ever did was it ?

This thread is about Willie Frazer.

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-10-2019 8:09pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

That was the worst thing Michael Collins ever did was it ?

pablo128 wrote: »

This thread is about Willie Frazer.

I would agree it is apt you have both names in the same post.

Scoundrel · 10-10-2019 9:35pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Nor has the whole of the Republic of Ireland. They started it all in 1916, so cant complain if they dont like the tactics employed by those only trying to even things out. Its all fine and dandy to be anti terrorism when you have no need for it, yet glorify your own terrorists of the past as heros, patriots, and role models.

Actually the british occupation of Ireland started it all also the Irish volunteers were a response to the terrorist uvf formed in 1912

realdanbreen · 11-10-2019 11:44am

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Nor has the whole of the Republic of Ireland. They started it all in 1916, so cant complain if they dont like the tactics employed by those only trying to even things out. Its all fine and dandy to be anti terrorism when you have no need for it, yet glorify your own terrorists of the past as heros, patriots, and role models.

The British were up there among the greatest terrorists the world has ever seen There was a time when the sun never set on at least one of the many countries they had invaded, terrorised and pillaged. The fact that they now have an immigrant problem which is mainly made up of immigrants from their colonial past and somehow blame the EU for immigration is not just hilarious but so ironic.,

Mal-Adjusted · 11-10-2019 12:43pm

The ban is up already, is it TROL?

armaghlad · 12-10-2019 10:42am

It’s quite funny, in the immediate aftermath of these revelations of Willie Frazer’s terrorist activities; his close friend and arch-bigot Jamie Bryson rushed to defend him, saying he knew all along about Frazer’s past.

Queue the following day’s Irish News, which ran an article stating his family denied him having any such role with Ulster Resistance. Lol.

Willie Frazer has died

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