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Breeding Hoggetts-Store Lamb Prices etc

  • 15-07-2020 10:50am
    #1
    Western Pomise
    Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭


    Decided to set up this thread,as the Factory Prices thread has lot of conversations in it the last while apart from just doing its job of giving people a chance to see what lambs are worth to factories each week iykwim.

    This thread could be a place where people give reports on prices they have seen in Marts from now on.....prices for different types of Store lambs,up into lambs bought for killing from the marts and prices given ffor breeding hoggetts,breeding ewes and cull ewes.
    Hope it was ok to do this mods:)


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  • #2
    Lambman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    33kgs lambs €80-€85. Any fat ewes over 80kg are €100 up till €139 for 96kg ewes. That's Saturday prices I got wasnt at mart just left them off so that's all I know. Mad prices but I cudn justify not selling at those prices. Grass everywere here so I rented it out for grazing. Lambs never seen meal. Lambs never needed till be cliked or dipped. I still need grazers so thinking on lighter fat ewes till be honest it's a far steadier market than lambs and good farmed ewes but thin were supposed be easy bought. 80kg supposed be the magic number €100 + anything less could be any price.


  • #3
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I see that Borris ewe breeders are on 15th of August (1st sale) and Tullow 1st sale is on 5th August.


  • #4
    jfh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭jfh


    kk.man wrote: »
    I see that Borris ewe breeders are on 15th of August (1st sale) and Tullow 1st sale is on 5th August.

    What are these sales like?


  • #5
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭kk.man


    jfh wrote: »
    What are these sales like?

    They are top quality hogget ewes and lambs bred specially for the occasion.


  • #6
    DJ98
    Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭DJ98


    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-and-prices-buyers-travel-for-borris-ewe-breeders-show-and-sale/


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  • #7
    thelegend1979
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭thelegend1979


    Bought nice suffolk cross hoggets privately this week for 170. Werent pumped with meal last winter but had a good run on dry land.The way the lamb trade is was happy enough to pay that price.


  • #8
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    DJ98 wrote: »
    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-and-prices-buyers-travel-for-borris-ewe-breeders-show-and-sale/

    What exactly is a Borris ewe, what’s the breeding?
    Looking at the pics there, they seem more Suffolky than I would have thought...


  • #9
    DJ98
    Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭DJ98


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    What exactly is a Borris ewe, what’s the breeding?
    Looking at the pics there, they seem more Suffolky than I would have thought...

    Suffolk ram put to cheviot ewes, always achieve premium prices


  • #10
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    Thinking Of heading to the the sale if don’t have anything picked up in the mean time. What kind of money would they go roughly?


  • #11
    weatherbyfoxer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    What exactly is a Borris ewe, what’s the breeding?
    Looking at the pics there, they seem more Suffolky than I would have thought...

    suffolk ram over cheviot ewes to produce speckled face borris type ewe lambs..the most over rated hoggets you can buy in my opinion. huge,wild ewes that are hard handle that will scan 1.6 as hoggets and 1.8 at very best in ideal conditions..the bigger and fatter they are the more you will pay also face marking draw extra money too..if you decide to go to any of the show sales this year to buy the more stylish ones be prepared to pay..€200+...that my honest opinion on having them here.id never buy another but so lads swear by them..they will wean around 1.5 good square lambs if put to a decent continental type ram


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  • #12
    farming93
    Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭farming93


    Ram lambs wanted for export in carnew mart. 43kg plus. Not sure regarding prices just seen it on fb.


  • #13
    Bleating Lamb
    Registered Users Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    farming93 wrote: »
    Ram lambs wanted for export in carnew mart. 43kg plus. Not sure regarding prices just seen it on fb.


    They might be heading out to Italy as Italy are buying strong ram lambs.


  • #14
    Lambman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Borris hoggets get snapped up by purebred men for ET big roomy ewes till let the lamb grow inside and any ewe will have enough milk till rear a lamb getting creeped from as early as it can eat.


  • #15
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Lambman wrote: »
    Borris hoggets get snapped up by purebred men for ET big roomy ewes till let the lamb grow inside and any ewe will have enough milk till rear a lamb getting creeped from as early as it can eat.

    Theres hardly much ET going on in sheep in Ireland is there?


  • #16
    jd06
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭jd06


    ganmo wrote: »
    Theres hardly much ET going on in sheep in Ireland is there?

    Wouldn't think so, most PB breeders are lambing at Christmas or before
    Want to be going to the ram shortly
    Most breeders sales arnt till the middle of August or after


  • #17
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 921 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    I contacted a local prominent sheep farmer to enquire about purchasing PB ewe lambs. he has Suffolk, Texel and Char. Prices start at €500. I got a wild shock! I was expecting maybe €200, shows how little i know about sheep!


  • #18
    Bleating Lamb
    Registered Users Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    I contacted a local prominent sheep farmer to enquire about purchasing PB ewe lambs. he has Suffolk, Texel and Char. Prices start at €500. I got a wild shock! I was expecting maybe €200, shows how little i know about sheep!

    Commercial sheep are up at least 15% on last year prices wise so Pedigree Breeders won’t be giving away many cheap stock this year I would imagine.


  • #19
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Seen mule ewe lambs still on the ewe and a creep feeder in with them today:)


  • #20
    Western Pomise
    Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    thelegend1979 wrote: »
    Bought nice suffolk cross hoggets privately this week for 170. Werent pumped with meal last winter but had a good run on dry land.The way the lamb trade is was happy enough to pay that price.

    They would not be out of the way price wise....I saw what I would consider to be big very plain Suffolk x hoggetts bought by a cousin in Ballina that cost €175.

    It will be interesting to see if prices stay up for hoggetts when the traditional time for selling them of late August on comes as that current buyer from up Midlands who wants December or January lambs from hoggetts will be gone from competing for buying hoggetts iykwim.

    Personally I think they will keep up in price because there is a huge growth of grass in last fortnight,farmers with nice ewe lambs don’t have to be in any rush out to sell them,so farmers looking to buy 10,20 or even 50 hoggetts for breeding (depending on their flock size) will have competition to buy them imo.While a reduction in price can be expected for store lambs being bought to fatten for factory can be expected when bigger numbers come out I reckon you will see breeding ewe lambs and hoggetts remain a good trade into September.

    What do others think....will prices tail off or sustain themselves into September?.


  • #21
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    They would not be out of the way price wise....I saw what I would consider to be big very plain Suffolk x hoggetts bought by a cousin in Ballina that cost €175.

    It will be interesting to see if prices stay up for hoggetts when the traditional time for selling them of late August on comes as that current buyer from up Midlands who wants December or January lambs from hoggetts will be gone from competing for buying hoggetts iykwim.

    Personally I think they will keep up in price because there is a huge growth of grass in last fortnight,farmers with nice ewe lambs don’t have to be in any rush out to sell them,so farmers looking to buy 10,20 or even 50 hoggetts for breeding (depending on their flock size) will have competition to buy them imo.While a reduction in price can be expected for store lambs being bought to fatten for factory can be expected when bigger numbers come out I reckon you will see breeding ewe lambs and hoggetts remain a good trade into September.

    What do others think....will prices tail off or sustain themselves into September?.
    Around these parts Hoggets are up a good 20e on last year. I am expecting a few records to be broken at the specialist breeding sales around here.
    The lamb trade has been unreal for this time of the year coupled with if you sell a big cull for say 125e it makes purchasing her replacement Borris type very doable.


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  • #22
    Lambman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Is that a serious question about not much ET in ireland? After a quick think I could name a dozen breeders around me that does it and I could be in any off threre yards in less than 20 mins. #edit I'd saybif I thought on it I'd get 20


  • #23
    thelegend1979
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭thelegend1979


    I think breeders will be very expensive this year. Lamb prices are well up and culls a good trade and no better man than the farmer to give the extra money back. Its always been the same.Saw hoggets making well over the 200 mark last year. Good suffolks and texel crosses. 2 pens of hoggets in tuam on tuesday. one pen of nice texel crosses with a few plain hoggets through them sold for 174. A pen of light hoggets went for 160 plus. Dealers were the main bidders as its a bit early.


  • #24
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Lambman wrote: »
    Is that a serious question about not much ET in ireland? After a quick think I could name a dozen breeders around me that does it and I could be in any off threre yards in less than 20 mins. #edit I'd saybif I thought on it I'd get 20

    All the same breed or different ones?


  • #25
    Lambman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    ganmo wrote: »
    All the same breed or different ones?

    Texel mostly closely followed by Suffolk.


  • #26
    jd06
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭jd06


    39kgs stores 90 euro back on other weeks
    No meal


  • #27
    Dickie10
    Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    first load of store lambs arriving tonight from Kenmare.


  • #28
    jfh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭jfh


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    first load of store lambs arriving tonight from Kenmare.

    What were they like dickie10?


  • #29
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    Decided to set up this thread,as the Factory Prices thread has lot of conversations in it the last while apart from just doing its job of giving people a chance to see what lambs are worth to factories each week iykwim.

    This thread could be a place where people give reports on prices they have seen in Marts from now on.....prices for different types of Store lambs,up into lambs bought for killing from the marts and prices given ffor breeding hoggetts,breeding ewes and cull ewes.
    Hope it was ok to do this mods:)

    And there’s no conversation in this one!


  • #30
    Robson99
    Registered Users Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    first load of store lambs arriving tonight from Kenmare.

    How are they looking this year Dickie ?
    You seemed to have a nice bunch last year. Hopefully they left a pound


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  • #31
    Lambman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Just after forking out 7k on 44 hoggets bought privately 90% black and brown faced Suffolk x never seen meal good framed ewes.


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