Heavyweight Boxing

I'm not moving the goalposts, I score every fight and he was ahead on my card. I expect all cards from these judges to be the same or at least close over a whole fight.

If these judges were marking bigger shots over volume of scoring punches then they are doing their job wrong.

The compubox numbers back me up.

Round 1 Zhang had 14 scoring punches to 4 for Joyce.

Round 2 Zhang had 16 scoring punches to 15 for Joyce. In this situation you look at what you marked as bigger hits. Zhang landed 14 to 9 for Joyce.

Round 3 Joyce landed 23 to 15 for Zhang.

Round 4 Joyce 18 to 15 for Zhang

Round 5 Joyce 21 to 13 for Zhang

I said Zhang won 1 and 2 and Joyce won 3, 4 and 5. The numbers back up my scoring of the fight.

styles makes fights and he was just all wrong for Zhang sadly.

I would advise him to swerve the rematch and maybe fight Whyte hopefully get a flashy win and then maybe he might get a money fight with Joshua and Fury which he would not win but at least he would get paid.

Just on the cards: I have no real issue with the cards, as I reckon Joyce was being rewarded purely for effort and workrate; and Zhang was taking breathers.

So on a rd to rd basis, Joyce was deserving of some rds. But as regards action, substance and superiority, it was Zhang clearly ahead. And it was Zhang’s punching that closed the eye and got the fight stopped!! So Joyce really was well beaten!!

joyce was talking to talk sport in the ring after the fight and mentioned another fight before a possible rematch, his mum chirped in asking why the doctor was not called for dubois to check his eye and he gave her a little comment to be quiet

mums and their sons hey

on a serious not joyce took some serious shots and his head snapped back loads, i know people say he has great punch resistance but at 37 he needs to be careful using a face for defence, joyve is such a likeable guy but i am not sure what his best plan is from here, whyte stadium fight in the summer would make a few quid for him.

You have to know boxing scoring is not as simplistic as who landed the most?

george warren said they have a contract with zhang now which was a smart move

Joyce should listen to eagle eye as he himself thinks he was losing the fight before the stoppage.

Zhang has an Olympic silver and is huge and clearly knows what he’s at so maybe he’s had a hard time getting matched up with the big names. At this stage of his career he’s definitely beatable.

Was he really being avoided ? He hits like a train yes but a decent boxer would have good head movement 🤷‍♂️

people like Sam jones who used to manage Joe said joyce was being avoided too but realistically he was a fighter with little to offer financially for anyone and only when he became interim was he being spoken about by the bigger fighters

I wouldn’t dismiss your views, but more dismiss your excuses.

I had it 4-1 Zhang after 5, and wouldn’t argue against 3/2 Zhang. This based off pure 10-9 must system per rd.

The wider picture that I think you either can’t see, or don’t want to see is how Joyce was clearly inferior last night during the 15-18 mins of action against a good opponent (but not at all great).

Of the 15-18 mins when both were trying, Joyce was losing every minute… Joyce really only had his success when Zhang had to take breathers. That’s what I, and others clearly saw. He was outclassed

Zhang is no random journeyman bud he’s definitely more than a “decent boxer”. Just schooled one of the highest rated British heavyweights.

Joe last night made AJ look like Pea Whitaker!!!

Who has he fought of note apart from a half finished Parker 🤷‍♂️ Zhang was the best boxer he has fought so far that’s why

joyce was never going to set the world on fire with that style for long in my opinion