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14-11-2019, 23:54   #61
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This is what one day and one users highlighting the motordom this country has decided to ignore looks like

But apparently we are meant to get mad at scooters, cyclist and pedestrians
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15-11-2019, 00:19   #62
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I hope you enjoyed the cold and rain immensely this morning on your cycle to work.
i cycled to work in that cold and rain and got neither cold nor wet. cyclists don't cycle naked, you know.

granted, i will allow that i was happy not to have been out cycling yesterday evening.
that said, i had an errand to run yesterday evening in the car, and i would still have preferred to have been on the bike. at one point, the car was telling me the engine had been running over 35 minutes with an average speed attained of 9km/h. i walk at about 6km/h.
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15-11-2019, 00:30   #63
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i cycled to work in that cold and rain and got neither cold nor wet. cyclists don't cycle naked, you know.

granted, i will allow that i was happy not to have been out cycling yesterday evening.
that said, i had an errand to run yesterday evening in the car, and i would still have preferred to have been on the bike. at one point, the car was telling me the engine had been running over 35 minutes with an average speed attained of 9km/h. i walk at about 6km/h.
It was pretty miserable yesterday alright. The only thing my car was telling me that I cared about was the inside temperature was at a steady 25 degrees.
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It was pretty miserable yesterday alright. The only thing my car was telling me that I cared about was the inside temperature was at a steady 25 degrees.
Does it share any interesting data on the Co2 / Nox levels you're inhaling for hours on end from inside your comfy little air bubble ?
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I cycled yesterday. I had to throw on an extra base layer under my jacket. How awful.
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I hope you enjoyed the cold and rain immensely this morning on your cycle to work. I had a 25 minute drive to work, to be fair my only gripe is that the car took a little longer to warm up as it was Baltic.

Meanwhile my missus would have done the same journey in 10 minutes, as she works close to me but starts later. That's after hitting the gym in the morning which is about 20kms away.

I actually have little gripe with cyclists or electric scooters other than thinking that the electric scooters can be dangerous for their users on an open road.

I make a conscious decision to run 2 cars. I am a car enthusiast, and ex mechanic. I have an interest in cars and motorcycles. Myself and my missus are middle aged now, and no amount of cajoling, encouraging or downright insults are ever going to force us out of our cars and onto bicycles.

Again, enjoy your commute tomorrow. Hopefully you don't have ice cold rain pummelling your face on your way.
Good for you, amigo. What's with the persecution complex though? Are there hordes of people hounding you to stop using your car?

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15-11-2019, 10:45   #67
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Does it share any interesting data on the Co2 / Nox levels you're inhaling for hours on end from inside your comfy little air bubble ?
Sure look, I'll take my chances. Hopefully the pollen filter catches some of it.
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Look at this. Yet another tragedy of a pedestrian killed by a car. 5 comments. Every recently article in the journal about cycling has had 200+ comments freaking out about how much of a threat and danger cyclists are.
Except they're f*cking harmless really aren't they? eScooters and bikes are not the problem on our roads.
Why do people in cars literally get away with murder?
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https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-dies...892674-Nov2019

Look at this. Yet another tragedy of a pedestrian killed by a car. 5 comments. Every recently article in the journal about cycling has had 200+ comments freaking out about how much of a threat and danger cyclists are.
Except they're f*cking harmless really aren't they? eScooters and bikes are not the problem on our roads.
Why do people in cars literally get away with murder?
Another “look overt there” post. Nothing wrong with your post per say but it doesn’t relate to the arguments for/against e scooters here.
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Another “look overt there” post. Nothing wrong with your post per say but it doesn’t relate to the arguments for/against e scooters here.
There is no argument. eScooters and bicycles are harmless. Some motorists may find them a nuisance but that's about as far as it goes. I just can't understand why a cyclist breaking red lights or not wearing high vis causes such outrage, whereas you can kill people willy nilly with a car and no one cares. Can you imagine the furore if it was in the news that a cyclist hurt someone? It's utterly bizarre.

https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-crit...20019-Mar2018/

Look at this. 200 and odd posts, and it doesn't even say who was at fault. Why is there such outrage over this, but no one gives a f*ck when a car kills someone?
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There is no argument. eScooters and bicycles are harmless. Some motorists may find them a nuisance but that's about as far as it goes. I just can't understand why a cyclist breaking red lights or not wearing high vis causes such outrage, whereas you can kill people willy nilly with a car and no one cares. It's utterly bizarre.
E scooters are not harmless. A cyclist breaking a red light is not harmless. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either clueless or trolling IMO.
As for your last sentence......Christ on a bike!!

In response to your quick edit. So what. Unfortunate and all that is, this thread is about e scooters. Have a look at the title.

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There is no argument. eScooters and bicycles are harmless. Some motorists may find them a nuisance but that's about as far as it goes. I just can't understand why a cyclist breaking red lights or not wearing high vis causes such outrage, whereas you can kill people willy nilly with a car and no one cares. Can you imagine the furore if it was in the news that a cyclist hurt someone? It's utterly bizarre.

https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-crit...20019-Mar2018/

Look at this. 200 and odd posts, and it doesn't even say who was at fault. Why is there such outrage over this, but no one gives a f*ck when a car kills someone?
I think it's down to the endless hours people spend in their cars, angry, frustrated and jealous of cyclists or people on escooters "skipping" the traffic while they have been sold a dream by the motor industry of going anywhere, anytime with nothing in their way.
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Another “look overt there” post. Nothing wrong with your post per say but it doesn’t relate to the arguments for/against e scooters here.
It's about priorities. There's a reason e-scooters are low down on the agenda list. Sorry your kid got a whack but it's still small change in the grand scheme of things. Things would be a lot different if he/she got hit by something faster/heavier.
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It's gas the posters on here who harp on about drivers murdering cyclists when most of them are drivers themselves.

Hypocrites.
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How is that hypocritical?

I'm careful when I drive. Unlike some drivers I don't go crying when someone suggests that I should have to pay more attention/accept more responsibility when driving than I do when walking or cycling (or using a scooter for that matter although I don't own one) because that's just common sense imo. It's a dangerous activity which I'm well aware of and prepared to accept whatever is needed to mitigate the risk to others. Not whinge just because "they get to do it!".

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