N5 - Westport to Turlough [open to traffic]

HabibiLibnen · 04-01-2019 2:53pm

http://http://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/28388-construction-is-due-to-begin-on-the-170-million-euro-new-n5-castlebar-to-westport-road-by-september

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2019/01/04/4167275-work-to-start-on-170m-n5-westport-to-turlough-road-project-in-september/

Ring reckons it will be September/October when contracts are signed followed by an immediate start. I thought this went out to tender last May? Why is it going to a second tender?

highwaymaniac · 04-01-2019 7:25pm

HabibiLibnen wrote: »

http://http://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/28388-construction-is-due-to-begin-on-the-170-million-euro-new-n5-castlebar-to-westport-road-by-september

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2019/01/04/4167275-work-to-start-on-170m-n5-westport-to-turlough-road-project-in-september/

Ring reckons it will be September/October when contracts are signed followed by an immediate start. I thought this went out to tender last May? Why is it going to a second tender?

It is a 2 part tender process, part 1 is the pre-qualification stage where contractors are shortlisted usually 5-7. The 2nd part is when the tender documents are issued to the shortlisted contractors for pricing.

DumbBrunette · 02-02-2019 1:04pm

I mentioned this in N59 thread but it's worth adding here too, the N5 project will include the upgrading of the bad bends at barleyhill on the N59 outside Westport. See end of this article:

http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/105502/barley-hill-action-is-urgently-required-or-lives-could-be-lost

irishgeo · 02-02-2019 1:33pm

the traffic management plan is going to be interesting an read, its crossing the n5 in more the place and the n60 close to the breaffy roundabout.

seligehgit · 02-02-2019 1:51pm

DumbBrunette wrote: »

I mentioned this in N59 thread but it's worth adding here too, the N5 project will include the upgrading of the bad bends at barleyhill on the N59 outside Westport. See end of this article:

http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/105502/barley-hill-action-is-urgently-required-or-lives-could-be-lost

I had to use google maps for barleyhill.:D

Some really bad bends out that direction.

irishgeo · 12-02-2019 8:00am

Anyone worried this could be delayed due to NCH overspend.

marno21 · 12-02-2019 1:25pm

irishgeo wrote: »

Anyone worried this could be delayed due to NCH overspend.

Most of the savings for this year will come from deferring the A5 scheme in Northern Ireland. I wouldn't be worried about this project.

mayo.mick · 12-02-2019 1:26pm

irishgeo wrote: »

Anyone worried this could be delayed due to NCH overspend.

New road to Micky Rings town, NEVER:D

UsBus · 13-02-2019 11:20pm

Anyone know are there houses being knocked at Breaffy where the bypass will cross over.? Passed by recently and I can see the fencing on the right hand side as you head towards Castlebar but can't see much space for it on the left..???

godskitchen · 14-02-2019 9:45am

UsBus wrote: »

Anyone know are there houses being knocked at Breaffy where the bypass will cross over.? Passed by recently and I can see the fencing on the right hand side as you head towards Castlebar but can't see much space for it on the left..???

I was thinking the exact thing last week, looks like something will have to be knocked alright

DumbBrunette · 11-04-2019 9:10pm

irishgeo wrote: »

Anyone worried this could be delayed due to NCH overspend.

You're not the only one thinking this, now Mayo councillors are kicking up a stink saying N5 project is at risk. If Govt end up breaking this promise to Mayo electorate after 20 years of promises by FG and FF, Michael Ring and co will be crucified at the polls!

http://www.mayonews.ie/news/33543-national-children-s-hospital-could-stall-n5-holmes

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2019/03/30/4171823-mayo-councillor-questions-new-170m-n5-road-start/

Cosmo Kramer · 12-04-2019 9:07am

Can't see Ring allowing that to happen given the personal impact it would have on his own career.

marno21 · 12-04-2019 9:11am

Absolute nonsense. The required cover for the overspend in 2019 is €100m. The share of this coming from the DTTAS budget is €27m - all from the A5 project

spacetweek · 14-04-2019 8:58am

Yep, there’s no risk - the Mayo councillors are probably just impatient. As are we!

DumbBrunette · 14-04-2019 7:34pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Yep, there’s no risk - the Mayo councillors are probably just impatient. As are we!

I went to a public consultation for the preferred route in Westport leisure centre back in 2001, and the projected opening date was 2005 - so I agree with you about people being impatient

This project as presented then is far inferior to the current one though - it was only single carriageway, with no Westport relief road included. And it ended at a new roundabout on the current Castlebar relief road, which was badly congested at peak times even back then.

It's been a long wait but thank goodness that version wasn't built!!

marno21 · 14-04-2019 8:49pm

DumbBrunette wrote: »

I went to a public consultation for the preferred route in Westport leisure centre back in 2001, and the projected opening date was 2005 - so I agree with you about people being impatient

This project as presented then is far inferior to the current one though - it was only single carriageway, with no Westport relief road included. And it ended at a new roundabout on the current Castlebar relief road, which was badly congested at peak times even back then.

It's been a long wait but thank goodness that version wasn't built!!

Indeed. The three schemes starting this year, N4/N5/N22 have grown many legs over the years and whilst waiting for them has been torturous, the schemes we are getting now are absolute top notch.

If we ever get the ambition to complete the 2+2 schemes as planned on routes like the N2/N3/N4/N5/N11/N13/N14/N15/N17/N21/N22/N24/N25/N26 then this country will be absolutely transformed.

spacetweek · 25-04-2019 8:58pm

Anyone got detailed maps of this? The one on RegDesign is indicative only.

marno21 · 25-04-2019 9:28pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Anyone got detailed maps of this? The one on RegDesign is indicative only.

There is one in the tender documents: https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=129639&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

spacetweek · 01-05-2019 7:13pm

Thanks, but the route in the pdf there is too low res to see properly.

DumbBrunette · 01-05-2019 8:17pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Thanks, but the route in the pdf there is too low res to see properly.

Try the Mayo NRDO website, go to N5 page, then project development, phase 3 Design, then design report, volume 2 part 2.

http://www.regdesign.com/?page_id=493

Proper hardcore maps in there

12 element · 02-05-2019 11:31am

DumbBrunette wrote: »

Try the Mayo NRDO website, go to N5 page, then project development, phase 3 Design, then design report, volume 2 part 2.

http://www.regdesign.com/?page_id=493

Proper hardcore maps in there

Those drawing have the road all the way to Turlough but that's not being built now. Not sure what other differences there are

marno21 · 02-05-2019 11:48am

12 element wrote: »

Those drawing have the road all the way to Turlough but that's not being built now. Not sure what other differences there are

Best thing to do is to use the tender docs as a reference and the older maps for detail

Scheme being built includes N59 realignment out to Kilmeena also.

DumbBrunette · 02-05-2019 2:32pm

12 element wrote: »

Those drawing have the road all the way to Turlough but that's not being built now. Not sure what other differences there are

Only differences should be ones stipulated by ABP in their decision, which, apart from cutting the online upgrade to Turlough, were mostly minor. For example they wanted freeflow slip lanes at one or two of the roundabouts omitted and pedestrian and cycling provision improved along Westport relief road.

spacetweek · 02-05-2019 9:52pm

Great maps, thanks!

I'm surprised the junctions with the new road and the old N5 east and west of Castlebar will be big roundabouts, but even Islandeady is getting a grade separated one.

mayo.mick · 17-05-2019 5:47pm

Coming back from Castlebar yesterday there were workers marking the road with GPS units near where the roundabout is going on the N5 on the Turlough end.

marno21 · 11-06-2019 1:07am

4 tenders for this project being evaluated. SIAC/Colas, Wills/BAM, Roadbridge/Sisk and Clonmel/Sacyr/John Craddock.

Tender award in September with work to begin in Q4, after Leo and co arrive in town for a photoshoot and PR stunt.

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2019/06/10/4175370-four-tenders-competing-for-200m-mayo-road-project/

monument · 11-06-2019 8:32pm

What on earth are they doing with the greenway where it intersects with the ring road in Westport? For clarity: I'm saying 'what on earth', because it's unclear.

However, the drawings of the cycling provision around Westport are the usual poor quality.

I really hope they have already done work to improve these. I've yet to look at the rest of the route but I don't have high hopes based on the first drawings and what I've heard the people tell me what the council said to them.

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spacetweek · 12-06-2019 8:08pm

Can't make any sense of that drawing.

DumbBrunette · 12-06-2019 8:30pm

Many of the conditions ABP added as part of its approval relate to improved provision for cyclists around Westport. See Order pdf at this link: http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/HA0042.htm

monument wrote: »

What on earth are they doing with the greenway where it intersects with the ring road in Westport? For clarity: I'm saying 'what on earth', because it's unclear.

However, the drawings of the cycling provision around Westport are the usual poor quality.

I really hope they have already done work to improve these. I've yet to look at the rest of the route but I don't have high hopes based on the first drawings and what I've heard the people tell me what the council said to them.

monument · 13-06-2019 6:34pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Can't make any sense of that drawing.

Sorry -- that was an extract from a map in the tender documents. Here's the key:

N5 - Westport to Turlough [open to traffic]

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