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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    We're thinking of putting in a multifuel stove to heat the water and radiators. We've got 2 double sized radiators and 5 single sized rads. Any recommendations would be appreciated, I haven't a clue what to go for. Currently we have an open fire with a pump and backboiler, we also have oil fired central heating.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 arbf1


    can you let me know how you get on with Stratford EB16 insert? I'm looking at it too and would be ever so grateful if you let me know how it goes for you. Are you getting a builder to widen fireplace opening before installation?
    RubyGirl wrote: »
    We have finally decided on the Stratford EB16 insert, did a lot of research & it came up every time I rang or called into store's to look at different ones. Hope to have it installed this month. I'll pm you where I bought it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭RubyGirl


    arbf1 wrote: »
    can you let me know how you get on with Stratford EB16 insert? I'm looking at it too and would be ever so grateful if you let me know how it goes for you. Are you getting a builder to widen fireplace opening before installation?


    Hi, will do, no plumber said it was wide enough. I'm hoping to get it fitted before they go back to school so I'll let you know how it goes. Up & running and in full use will be middle of October so i'll keep you posted. Better do some good with the price I paid for it, but in saying that can't be any worse than the open fire with back boiler, disaster from day one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 arbf1


    I sent you a PM Ruby Girl just wondering where you got Stove and few other bits. Thanks for agreeing to share and fingers crossed stove goes well for you.
    RubyGirl wrote: »
    Hi, will do, no plumber said it was wide enough. I'm hoping to get it fitted before they go back to school so I'll let you know how it goes. Up & running and in full use will be middle of October so i'll keep you posted. Better do some good with the price I paid for it, but in saying that can't be any worse than the open fire with back boiler, disaster from day one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,286 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Stove landed yesterday by courier. Plumber coming on Monday. Any idea how long it takes from when the stove is installed to when the stove is actually up and running? Do I need to leave it a few days? In no hurry to light a fire, it's not a bit cold but would like to know how long before we know it is working properly. BTW we are getting a back boiler put when there wasn't one before.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Mizenly


    Hi all,

    Has anyone heard of/had experience with a Burley Debdale (4kw, 89.8% efficiency), Nordpeis Bergen (5kw, 84% efficiency), Mendip Loxton 5 (4.6kw, 80%), or Yeoman CL5 (4.9kw, 80%). I'm also looking at a Charnwood C4

    Apologies, I didn't know I had such a long list until now!! Yikes...

    I like the Burley Debdale, all the reviews look good and there are regular mentions of the 'mesmeric' flame picture. However, as far as I can see they are only available in the UK...I have no idea about the practicality of trying to have one shipped over or going to get one...Any thoughts/advice?
    I have seen clearview and Woodwarm mentioned on this thread, so I presume they are pretty easy to locate in Ireland, and they are in consideration though they are moving away from the style I prefer. I quite like the charnwood and there is a supplier in Galway, but...what if I'm giving up too easily on the Burley Debdale?! I have read that the efficiencies aren't so important, because there are so many variables...but I feel that since my treatment of each stove would be constant then if one is a harder worker than another it will still show?
    The stove is for our living room - online calculators say we would need 3.8kw heat, but we have a draughty sliding door facing the atlantic (you can both hear and feel the wind whistling in as soon as it starts to bluster! And these are fairly new doors so they are here for a while, brr), and would like to have excess heat escape into the hall rather than have to close the door to keep heat in...Actually now I'm doubting that 4kw would be enough :( Anyway, many thanks for any thoughts!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Mizenly wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Has anyone heard of/had experience with a Burley Debdale (4kw, 89.8% efficiency), Nordpeis Bergen (5kw, 84% efficiency), Mendip Loxton 5 (4.6kw, 80%), or Yeoman CL5 (4.9kw, 80%). I'm also looking at a Charnwood C4
    "quote"


    In a similar position as well at the moment, trying to decide on a stove. After looking at every brand on the market id got it down to clearview and Charnwood. Dont think you would go wrong with either of those. However going to add the burley to the list now after reading the reviews. I noticed they have a few stockists up north, so you could source one from there instead of going to England. I'd also be interested in hearing if anyone down south sells them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Mizenly


    I checked out a few of those websites in the North but none actually mentioned Burley. Instead of contacting each individually I sent Burley themselves an email yesterday so if I hear back I'll put it up here. I did find a stockist for the Nordpeis Bergen (it has a bigger window but still excellent efficiency) in the North, and it looks like free delivery to the south, so that's still in. And the Charnwood!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Mizenly


    Got a fairly unhelpful reply from Burley, but through it finally found a supplier in Galway - naturalgreenenergy (dot) ie I don't know why none of these guys have the Burley on their websites, (is that ominous?) but I emailed this place and they confirmed they supply them. However, their showroom is being renovated so they may not have a model for display until the end of September. He said the Debdale 4kw would be €930, I haven't asked about delivery/installation. Is it a no-no to order a stove you have never seen?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Just a quick question and one that has no doubt been answered multiple times before so if someone could point me to a previous answer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

    I'd like to get a stove but I'm unsure as to the best way of going about it. Should I go to a fireplace supplier who will install it for me too? Should I buy the stove and hire someone to install it separately? Obviously I'm hoping to do it for the lowest price I can but I'm a complete novice when it comes to this sort of thing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    RealJohn wrote: »
    Just a quick question and one that has no doubt been answered multiple times before so if someone could point me to a previous answer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

    I'd like to get a stove but I'm unsure as to the best way of going about it. Should I go to a fireplace supplier who will install it for me too? Should I buy the stove and hire someone to install it separately? Obviously I'm hoping to do it for the lowest price I can but I'm a complete novice when it comes to this sort of thing.

    I was in exactly the same position as you - complete novice, no question whatsoever of self-install. I got two shops (both specialise in fireplaces/stoves) to come out and assess the room/setup and give me quotes. I went with one of those, (they stocked a stove I preferred the look of which was a deciding factor in the end - I am a girl!) - they couldn't have been nicer to deal with, install was about a three-hour job start to finish and no fuss/mess whatsoever.

    I have no doubt that someone a bit handy could have done it a lot cheaper - but the hassle-free nature of my dealings with that supplier/installer meant it was worth every penny to me.

    Can PM details if you like, not sure if it's the done thing to be advertising merchants on here although I'd happily sing their praises from the rooftop - I'm in Dublin btw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    I got the Stratford eb 16 inset stove fitted last week in my sitting room,each time I open the door to put fire on smoke flows out to the sitting room,I have tried leaving door open and windows open but still no good,and I have an open vent in room,what can I try next


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 arbf1


    Hi East Mayo, I know leaving the damper open when lighting it can help with smoke until it's going well but you probably doing this...my friend had to get a special flu in chimney to stop the draft coming back down and blowing smoke into room. The fire drew a lot better after this. I know my open fire can be smokey at times depending on wind direction and strength.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    arbf1 wrote: »
    Hi East Mayo, I know leaving the damper open when lighting it can help with smoke until it's going well but you probably doing this...my friend had to get a special flu in chimney to stop the draft coming back down and blowing smoke into room. The fire drew a lot better after this. I know my open fire can be smokey at times depending on wind direction and strength.
    I will look into this,the thing is there was always a great pull on the chimney when I had open fire,so will have to see,working great other than that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭Sanchez83


    Double check that the baffle plate inside the stove is fitted correctly.
    Is there a gap to allow the smoke to travel up the chimney?
    Otherwise as the other poster said it could be something to do with your chimney.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Sanchez83 wrote: »
    Double check that the baffle plate inside the stove is fitted correctly.
    Is there a gap to allow the smoke to travel up the chimney?
    Otherwise as the other poster said it could be something to do with your chimney.

    There seems to be 3 settings on the baffle plate,there seems to be an issue with the baffle plate,there seems to be no way of removing it to clean chimney,builder was looking at it there for an hour and can't remove it,must be some way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭Sanchez83


    It might show in the stove manual how to remove it.Its definetly removable.
    I would not have great confidence in the fitter if he can't take out a baffle plate....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 cmaryr


    I am taking out a Villager A Stove after 12 years as it was never plumbed properly and never worked as it should - plenty heat in the room but nothing to the rads or water.
    I am looking at installing one of the following stoves bearing in mind that I need a top flue fitting and am stuck for space - really needs to be as narrow as possible. I will need approx. 6kw to the room itself and would hope for approx. 12kw to the rads/water.
    1. Stratford EB12HE-G4 Freestanding (Ideal as Spec says it is only 533mm wide / output is
    good also)
    2. Waterford Stanley Lismore (Width is also ideal but only gives 4.7kw to room)
    3. Waterford Stanley Reginald (A little wide but could make it work / output is ideal)

    I also have 2-3 rads in the area I need to heat (area requiring 6kw output).
    Can anyone please let me know if you have any of these stoves installed - are they working properly and can anyone recommend one stove over another?
    I am replacing what is there at the moment as it has never worked properly and need to ensure I am getting value for money when I replace this stove.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Sanchez83 wrote: »
    It might show in the stove manual how to remove it.Its definetly removable.
    I would not have great confidence in the fitter if he can't take out a baffle plate....

    No it dose not show how to remove it,I have every confidence in the fitter,he has fitted a lot of inset stoves,he has never seen this before,looks like a fault


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭Sanchez83


    A baffle plate is made separately from the stove.It is inserted after the body of the stove is manufactured.Therefore it was put in so can be taken out.They can be awkward at times to figure out but there's a knack in doing it if it doesn't show in the manual.Contact the retailer and if they don't know contact Stratford directly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭eastmayo


    Sanchez83 wrote: »
    A baffle plate is made separately from the stove.It is inserted after the body of the stove is manufactured.Therefore it was put in so can be taken out.They can be awkward at times to figure out but there's a knack in doing it if it doesn't show in the manual.Contact the retailer and if they don't know contact Stratford directly.
    Was at the retailer today,was able to take baffle plate of the stove in shop today no bother so defo fault with this 1,they comeing out tomorrow to have a look


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Villan11


    Hi all,

    Forgive me if this is a stupid question or if it's been covered already. Moved house recently and in the process of redecorating the front room. I've taken out the old hideous fire place/hearth/fire brick. Basically I've stripped everything out.

    I want to put some sort of insert into the opening, preferably a multifuel stove, but could go gas or electric if I had to.

    My only thing is that the room is small and I want to keep everything as minimal as possible so I am hoping to have something like a floating insert and no surround or hearth or mantle. I've attached an image of something like what I would like, but mine would be much smaller.

    Is this possible with a multifuel stove?


  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭Sarah3


    Hi

    I am looking for a recommendation for a room heater stove of approx. 12kw to heat a large open plan kitchen and living room.

    Ideally it should have a decent sized firebox and opening for large timber logs.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Bebo stunnah


    I'm getting a Cara plus insert stove fitted next week and was wondering would it be necessary for me to have to install a vent specifically for it? I've had 2 different suggestions that I should and shouldn't get it done. I was under the opinion, after reading the installation manual, that I should.

    The house is about 45 years old so it's far from being airtight and the room the stove is going in has a suspended timber floor, which I've taken up for access for plumbing (which is proving to be a whole other problem in itself) so if needs be, I'd prefer to get it done while it's up. I'm looking to insulate the floor (with a yet to be determined substance) and once completed access will be a nightmare if retro-retrofitting. Also I don't want to put the vent at the wall or, the most Irish bit advice I got so far; 'open the window if you need more air', as I don't want to have draughts across the whole room.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    I'm getting a Cara plus insert stove fitted next week and was wondering would it be necessary for me to have to install a vent specifically for it? I've had 2 different suggestions that I should and shouldn't get it done. I was under the opinion, after reading the installation manual, that I should.

    The house is about 45 years old so it's far from being airtight and the room the stove is going in has a suspended timber floor, which I've taken up for access for plumbing (which is proving to be a whole other problem in itself) so if needs be, I'd prefer to get it done while it's up. I'm looking to insulate the floor (with a yet to be determined substance) and once completed access will be a nightmare if retro-retrofitting. Also I don't want to put the vent at the wall or, the most Irish bit advice I got so far; 'open the window if you need more air', as I don't want to have draughts across the whole room.
    The stove must have a permanently open vent.
    Also a carbon monoxide alarm must be
    Fitted


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    +1 RibbieG

    It has to be a permanent non closeable vent. To avoid too much draughts keep it close to the stove, or at least try to not have it in a place where the air from it is passing around the people sitting in the room.

    Please follow site and charter rules. "Resistance is futile"



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Just a question on stove chimneys. Does the amount of bends on a chimney make any difference to draw on flue. Was looking to install a stove but will have to go out through an external wall with a stainless steel chimney and up side of house. Will have to add another bend to clear eves of house . therefore 2 bends with possible third if I go out back of stove as opposed to top plate of stove ?
    Thanks in advance .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Just a question on stove chimneys. Does the amount of bends on a chimney make any difference to draw on flue. Was looking to install a stove but will have to go out through an external wall with a stainless steel chimney and up side of house. Will have to add another bend to clear eves of house . therefore 2 bends with possible third if I go out back of stove as opposed to top plate of stove ?
    Thanks in advance .

    Yes the more bends the more restriction in the flue.
    You can have up to 4 bends but no larger that 45 degree


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    I posted this elsewhere but probably the wrong thread.

    I am going to see some stove stores tomorrow.
    What will be required to have stove up and running? It is an insert we have to use as space is not there to put out on the floor.
    The house is 1972 build - suspended timber floors - no vents in the walls (although i'm thinking of getting them done soon)
    Is it a stove and flue line kit all that I need? Or is there other equipment required?
    I am thinking to buy the stove locally (Haven't decided which stove to buy but will go with the recommendation of one of the local stores) and then give some freelance guy the work to put it in to share the work around.
    I would appreciate the advice. I don't want to go into a stove centre with a fist full of money and be upsold crap and junk I could avoid - obviously where possible. At the same time, I do not want to avoid getting all the right things to ensure a hassle free winter.
    thanks - irish


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Thank you Sanchez. I will do that so. You make a lot of sense actually when I consider after sales.
    Is there a big spread in terms of what I'd expect to pay for the different stoves? None of the sites seem to advertise the prices and we've never had a stove...only just bought our first home. Thanks


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