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Men who inspire you to age well

  • 09-07-2017 3:33pm
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    Examples that come to mind would be Jason Statham, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Dylan McDermott, Keanu Reeves, Billy Idol (sort of), and Will Smith. Perhaps Will Smith doesn't count as much, because he's black and black people age better anyway! Before you give your own examples, google these guys if the name doesn't ring a bell.

    These men are an inspiration to me as a young man. They're the sort that you kind of forget about their age. You'd be sitting there watching a movie or something for a while before you'd realise "hang on, how long has he been around?". You see most people are associated with an age - but these guys can sit with the oldies one moment (on a talk show or whatever it may be), and yet in another, they can be youthful & bathe in young pussy... or at least could if they wanted to. They've it both ways!

    I loved the way when Graham Northon pointed out how Kenanu Reeves hadn't seemed to age, Kenau's reply was a strong "that is not true!" - and that's a good way to handle it, rather than saying "oh well what I do is, I eat X at 2pm every day...."

    Oh and I nearly forgot; Robert Redford, even though he's a bit passed it now, but he was damn sexy at 60 in 'Up Close and Personal'!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    Inspire you to age well? I mean besides taking care of yourself to a decent degree it sounds like you're talking about just having good genes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,650 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    ...& bathe in young pussy...


    Fcukin' 'ell mate :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Sorry but you won't be bathing in teen pussy unless you are rich and famous.

    There's only one Anne Frank


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


    Sorry but you won't be bathing in teen pussy unless you are rich and famous.
    I didn't say teen, I said young!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    These lads have to watch what they eat and generally have to be very fit.

    Makeup will help on screen too. Half the lads probably get botox as well as it's like going to the shop in America


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Plus a fair few have "help". Botox as you say and cosmetic surgery(skin peels, hair transplants and the like) and especially various drug therapies like human growth hormone, testosterone replacement and other anabolics. No names, no pack drill, but a fair few older gentlemen in Hollywoodland are clearly on the juice. Which TBH I would have very little objection to. Within reason and reasonable doses. Hormone replacement therapy for men as it were.

    In certain jurisdictions a guy can even get a doctor to sign off on that stuff, because of "low testosterone levels". Robbie Williams has come out and admitted he takes it. As he says in the article; “I went to get some HGH. It’s what all the old fellas are on out there in LA that's making them look 40 instead of 60. Though he was only 37 at the time.

    So yeah, be careful of thinking some 60 year old rich famous guy who claimed he looks good on "clean living and exercise". It's far more likely he's getting extra help on top of that.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


    Wibbs wrote: »
    So yeah, be careful of thinking some 60 year old rich famous guy who claimed he looks good on "clean living and exercise". It's far more likely he's getting extra help on top of that.
    I wasn't aware of that.

    You'd think plastic surgery would look obvious, like with John Travolta and Courtney Cox. But regarding HGH, I definitely wasn't aware of it. Surely something like that is too good to be true - you'd think it would have long term consequences!

    But most Hollywood celebs do look their age. The men I've mentioned are the rare few that I can think of that actually look so young. I wouldn't be inclined to think that any of the names I've mentioned have had actual surgery.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Good genetics and subtle surgical help are usually behind the good agers of either gender. Poor genetics can't be saved by surgery or fillers, people just wind up looking alien. Everybody grows old, money can soften the appearance but it can't stop it.

    Reminds me of this:

    S0oUfzN.jpg


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


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    Billy Idol too? You obviously can't be 100% certain... seeing as it's presumably all kept hush.

    It must be scary putting your face in the hands of a surgeon! Courtney Cox must have been furious at what happened to her. I'd love to understand what these surgeons do? I mean what can they do for neck lines? They hardly inject botox into one's neck?


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Billy Idol too?

    It must be scary putting your face in the hands of a surgeon! Courtney Cox must have been furious at what happened to her. I'd love to understand what these surgeons do? I mean what can they do for neck lines? They hardly inject botox into one's neck?

    You can get a neck lift, or fillers into the rings, or both. If there's skin, there's a way of lifting it.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I wasn't aware of that.

    You'd think plastic surgery would look obvious, like with John Travolta and Courtney Cox. But regarding HGH, I definitely wasn't aware of it. Surely something like that is too good to be true - you'd think it would have long term consequences!
    Good surgery doesn't look nearly so obvious. Face peels and the like. Plus men are allowed more wrinkles as it were. HGH and testosterone(and similar) would be pretty rampant. Not the massive doses of bodybuilder types, but more like bringing levels up to where they were when a man was say 25. Testosterone levels in fit healthy men with good genetics starts to drop after around 30, but by small amounts, like 1-2% a year. There isn't the sudden change like happens in women in menopause.

    In healthy men. Many men as they age experience drop offs that are more severe, or have low enough levels to begin with. Robbie Williams apparently did. Such drops reflect all sorts of ageing issues. Lack of muscle tone, increased fat deposits, low libido, energy even psychological effects. The middle aged spread can be a side effect of such drops. Now diet and exercise and other lifestyle choices can certainly help raise levels, but not to the degree of getting back to the higher average of younger men. Check out guys like Sean Penn, or Mel Gibson. Both well past the flush of youth and... well they must have fantastic genetics...

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not the massive doses of bodybuilder types, but more like bringing levels up to where they were when a man was say 25. Testosterone levels in fit healthy men with good genetics starts to drop after around 30, but by small amounts, like 1-2% a year.
    So how come balding continues, as well as growth of the beard? Isn't a bald head the sign of testosterone?
    Wibbs wrote: »
    Many men as they age experience drop offs that are more severe, or have low enough levels to begin with. Robbie Williams apparently did.
    I remember reading something about that many years back. It's kind of ironic, to think that a man who got so many ladies is LOW in testosterone. He was also a fine well built and healthy looking man, with masculine features
    Wibbs wrote: »
    HGH and testosterone(and similar) would be pretty rampant.
    So that's all I've to do so? when I'm older! is to pay a good load of money and get myself some of it?! Great


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


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    Is it for women too?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    So how come balding continues, as well as growth of the beard? Isn't a bald head the sign of testosterone?
    I remember reading something about that many years back. It's kind of ironic, to think that a man who got so many ladies is LOW in testosterone. He was also a fine well built and healthy looking man, with masculine features
    So that's all I've to do so? when I'm older! is to pay a good load of money and get myself some of it?! Great
    Nah, the testosterone link is pop-science rubbish. It seems to have something to do with when testosterone is breaking down but whether you have loads or little testosterone it'll be enough when broken down to cause baldness.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


    It'd be funny to see a 30 year old looking man walking with the frailness of a 70 year old!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Plus a fair few have "help". Botox as you say and cosmetic surgery(skin peels, hair transplants and the like) and especially various drug therapies like human growth hormone, testosterone replacement and other anabolics. No names, no pack drill, but a fair few older gentlemen in Hollywoodland are clearly on the juice. Which TBH I would have very little objection to. Within reason and reasonable doses. Hormone replacement therapy for men as it were.

    In certain jurisdictions a guy can even get a doctor to sign off on that stuff, because of "low testosterone levels". Robbie Williams has come out and admitted he takes it. As he says in the article; “I went to get some HGH. It’s what all the old fellas are on out there in LA that's making them look 40 instead of 60. Though he was only 37 at the time.

    So yeah, be careful of thinking some 60 year old rich famous guy who claimed he looks good on "clean living and exercise". It's far more likely he's getting extra help on top of that.

    Joe Rogan, for example, gets testosterone replacement. He gets his testosterone level replenished to the same level it was when he was around 27.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    So how come balding continues, as well as growth of the beard? Isn't a bald head the sign of testosterone?
    Nope. A bald 20 year old man could have quite low testosterone. It's how your hair follicles are genetically predisposed to being weakened by testosterone. For example in eunuchs in India older ones can still suffer from thinning hair and male pattern baldness, even though they have no testicles. It would delay balding in a man prone to it, but it'll still happen.
    I remember reading something about that many years back. It's kind of ironic, to think that a man who got so many ladies is LOW in testosterone. He was also a fine well built and healthy looking man, with masculine features
    The look of a man can give little enough indication of low testosterone. It again depends on how his body responds to it. This can vary a lot*. On a personal note I have higher than average testosterone discovered in medical tests years ago. I'm thin, no muscle to speak of, not particularly physically strong, beard hair grows very slow(though I could grow a full beard by 16 and my voice broke before any of my classmates). The only effect I can see is that I stayed lean and never got the middle aged spread common among my peers, my skin seems thicker(fewer wrinkles) and have higher than average bone density even though I don't exercise.

    In any such "age improving" drug regime the individual's needs would have to be very carefully adjusted.


    *Aside it's why I take issue with drug cheats in sport. The idea that "sure if they're all taking the same drugs, then the winning results would be in the same order" doesn't work like that. Some people are better responders than others and get greater results from the same doses than others.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Nope. A bald 20 year old man could have quite low testosterone. It's how your hair follicles are genetically predisposed to being weakened by testosterone. For example in eunuchs in India older ones can still suffer from thinning hair and male pattern baldness, even though they have no testicles. It would delay balding in a man prone to it, but it'll still happen.

    The look of a man can give little enough indication of low testosterone. It again depends on how his body responds to it. This can vary a lot*. On a personal note I have higher than average testosterone discovered in medical tests years ago. I'm thin, no muscle to speak of, not particularly physically strong, beard hair grows very slow(though I could grow a full beard by 16 and my voice broke before any of my classmates). The only effect I can see is that I stayed lean and never got the middle aged spread common among my peers, my skin seems thicker(fewer wrinkles) and have higher than average bone density even though I don't exercise.

    In any such "age improving" drug regime the individual's needs would have to be very carefully adjusted.


    *Aside it's why I take issue with drug cheats in sport. The idea that "sure if they're all taking the same drugs, then the winning results would be in the same order" doesn't work like that. Some people are better responders than others and get greater results from the same doses than others.
    I'm 28 and I've the beard of an 18 year old. This doesn't confirm I'm low in testosterone though, does it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Plus a fair few have "help". Botox as you say and cosmetic surgery(skin peels, hair transplants and the like) and especially various drug therapies like human growth hormone, testosterone replacement and other anabolics. No names, no pack drill, but a fair few older gentlemen in Hollywoodland are clearly on the juice. Which TBH I would have very little objection to. Within reason and reasonable doses. Hormone replacement therapy for men as it were.

    So, wear yourself out and deplete the auld hormones... then just pop into your GP, and get a top up??

    Doesn't really sound like a positive aging message to me. More like a licence to run your body into the ground, and then get a quick fix solution!

    Positive aging is more about accepting that your hormones are going to naturally drop... instead of trying to artificially maintain the hormone levels of a 20 year old, when you're 50.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


    instead of trying to artificially maintain the hormone levels of a 20 year old, when you're 50.
    could you not have at least said 25, or even 21? but 20! now I feel old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


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    I guess I just don't really believe in taking shortcuts, where health is concerned...

    I don't think you get the same results anyway. I know some older guys who are using "enhancements"... many of them just don't look right to me. I can spot genuine health, that comes from consistency and years of dedication, from the fake enhanced kind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


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    A heart bypass, is a surgical intervention to stop you dying... just like gastric bypass surgery. It's not really part of a healthy aging plan. (more like you didn't have a plan, or your plan didn't work very well)

    Most people start out in life with fairly solid health. But their priorities get messed up by societal pressure in various ways.

    Rather than being reactive, by patching people back together after they've messed their bodies up... we should look to be more proactive as a society, by learning lessons and getting better at pre-empting these issues!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Pictures Of Lilly


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    But you don't need good health to be dedicated!


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