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AirBnB and COVID19

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    #62
    cefh17
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭cefh17


    Whereisgalway wrote: »
    Rent paid shows an ability to repay at a certain level each month to a mortgage for the bank.

    Probably means more about getting a deposit together


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    #63
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    cefh17 wrote: »
    Probably means more about getting a deposit together

    Mortgage specialist at BOI told me it was to show you can make the repayments consistently.


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    #64
    skinny90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭skinny90


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Mortgage specialist at BOI told me it was to show you can make the repayments consistently.

    Your missing the point, you need to save considerably at the same time for a deposit


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    #65
    skinny90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭skinny90


    Btw I have just moved into an apt. As for searching over the last 2 months it was extremely tough, require extensive refreshing on daft incase we’d miss out on something. There is still quite a lot of stock on Airbnb and I even reached out to a few to see if they would consider long term rent. The responses were, well interesting to say the least


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    #66
    cefh17
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    skinny90 wrote: »
    Btw I have just moved into an apt. As for searching over the last 2 months it was extremely tough, require extensive refreshing on daft incase we’d miss out on something. There is still quite a lot of stock on Airbnb and I even reached out to a few to see if they would consider long term rent. The responses were, well interesting to say the least

    What did they say?


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    #67
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    266* Room to Share
    210 House/Apt
    15/06/2020

    *Looks like the Room to Share number is not accurate, there are more as student accommodations have cleared up and are listed once for many. One such listing is also for new student accommodation that won't be available until September.

    If anyone is looking for a rental any time soon. Negotiate down the price. The power is in your hands. If they don't go for it, line up multiple places you're interested in and pit them against each other.


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    #68
    Bobeagleburger
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    As expected AirBnB accomodation is springing up due to the busted tourism industry.


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    #69
    Wompa1
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    282 Room to Share
    174 House/Apt

    36 properties gone in 2 weeks. Wonder if they got rented or put back up on AirBnB. The increase in tourists over the last week or so has been noticeable. Also now seeing some Irish people having a holiday for themselves here.


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    #70
    gordongekko
    Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    282 Room to Share
    174 House/Apt

    36 properties gone in 2 weeks. Wonder if they got rented or put back up on AirBnB. The increase in tourists over the last week or so has been noticeable. Also now seeing some Irish people having a holiday for themselves here.

    The students are definitely around hutung for properties for college


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    #71
    zell12
    Registered Users Posts: 23,334 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Rental prices not coming down at all


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    #72
    [Deleted User]
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    gordongekko wrote: »
    The students are definitely around hutung for properties for college

    I wonder what demand will be like this year as I’ve herd (anecdotally) from one senior lecturer in one of the galways colleges that all lectures will be online for him until Christmas at the earliest and possibly the full year. Yes courses will have labs etc but I’d imagine they might be crammed into a day or two and therefore people only need to be there on them days so longer commutes or b&b, Airbnb etc would make more sense than paying for accommodation all year.


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    #73
    skinny90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭skinny90


    Kaden Rhythmic Ballpark wrote: »
    I wonder what demand will be like this year as I’ve herd (anecdotally) from one senior lecturer in one of the galways colleges that all lectures will be online for him until Christmas at the earliest and possibly the full year. Yes courses will have labs etc but I’d imagine they might be crammed into a day or two and therefore people only need to be there on them days so longer commutes or b&b, Airbnb etc would make more sense than paying for accommodation all year.

    yeah but the courses that dont require labs can easily be hosted online


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    #74
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    skinny90 wrote: »
    yeah but the courses that dont require labs can easily be hosted online

    Yeah thats my point, the courses of the lecturer I am referring to would require labs but lectures are going to be online which will heavily limit the amount of days students need to be onsite and may make paying for full time accommodation make no sense.

    Courses without labs would require no onsite time at all.


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    #75
    flazio
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    Perhaps, but the youngsters are still going to want to get out from under their parents noses.


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    #76
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    flazio wrote: »
    Perhaps, but the youngsters are still going to want to get out from under their parents noses.

    Some might but plenty won’t, I was very happy to be able to stay living at home all through college (and beyond) never got the appeal of living in crappy houseshares eating beans and toast and struggling to have the price of a few pints on a Thursday night.


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    #77
    zell12
    Registered Users Posts: 23,334 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Taxpayer to bail out AirBnB landlords
    “The Airbnb properties that are now not being used – is there an opportunity for the state to buy more of them? It’s something that I’m looking at, absolutely. It is something that I want to do frankly,” said Fianna Fail Housing minister O’Brien.

    An affordable rental scheme is needed in Ireland, and work is underway to set out what the affordable rent limits will be.
    “Within about eight weeks, I should have those options,” he said, stating there’s an expert group that’s been working the rent limits.. However, generally the minister said the definition is 35% or a third of your net take home pay.


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    #78
    Jizique
    Registered Users Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Jizique


    zell12 wrote: »
    Taxpayer to bail out AirBnB landlords

    Nuts for the taxpayer - typical FF, bailing out investors at last year’s price based on 100% occupancy


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    #79
    [Deleted User]
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    Jizique wrote: »
    Nuts for the taxpayer - typical FF, bailing out investors at last year’s price based on 100% occupancy

    Did you even read the article lol


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    #80
    Jizique
    Registered Users Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Jizique


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Did you even read the article lol

    I read enough of it and I know enough of how FF operate in conjunction with councils when it comes to builders and property owners


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    #81
    [Deleted User]
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    Jizique wrote: »
    I read enough of it and I know enough of how FF operate in conjunction with councils when it comes to builders and property owners

    Thanks for clarifying that you didn't, cheers


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    TwoWheeledTim
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    Does AirBnB put any restrictions on bookings at the moment for tourists jumping around Europe? I know it's not their job but surely it should be easy to flag.

    I have a couple of AirBnB apartments in our block. One of them has been active again in the last week with 2 sets of American tourists. I would be very surprised if they arrived into the country over two weeks ago and isolated before exploring Galway. Haven't seen any masks. Very uncomfortable when passing them in the stairs.


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    #83
    Whereisgalway
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    TwoWheeledTim wrote: »
    Does AirBnB put any restrictions on bookings at the moment for tourists jumping around Europe? I know it's not their job but surely it should be easy to flag.

    I have a couple of AirBnB apartments in our block. One of them has been active again in the last week with 2 sets of American tourists. I would be very surprised if they arrived into the country over two weeks ago and isolated before exploring Galway. Haven't seen any masks. Very uncomfortable when passing them in the stairs.

    Galway is a place that relies heavily on tourists, without them we’d collapse. The virus is going to be around for a very long time, we have to evolve along side it.


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    #84
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    263 Room to Share
    163 House/Apt
    16/07/2020

    Big increase in number of places available to share...

    Not a big increase in places for rent but still a much larger stock than before the pandemic.


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    #85
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    "Or, you may get lucky and find a hidden gem like Aideen O'Brien, who is currently enjoying a break with her family at an apartment in Salthill, County Galway at a reduced rate.

    "When the landlord heard that we were travelling to see our Galway relations, she said she wanted to support families reuniting and gave us 12 nights in her two bed Salthill apartment for €1,000. The original rate was €160 per night. We are here now and the place is lovely, we're having the best holiday ever. I don't know how we would have managed if it hadn't been for the kindness of this lady," she said."

    From: https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0717/1154033-can-you-afford-to-holiday-in-ireland/

    Based on the number of tourists and people from other counties visiting over the last 3 weeks, I'd say the numbers for available properties may head the other way. At least a little.

    1k euro for 12 nights is seen as an act of charity. Madness, Ted!


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    #86
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    1000/12 is 83 Euro per night instead of 160.
    So the landlady reduced the rent by 50%


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    #87
    cal naughton
    Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭cal naughton


    biko wrote: »
    1000/12 is 83 Euro per night instead of 160.
    So the landlady reduced the rent by 50%

    Another way of looking at it is that the Host had the price at the extortionate rate of 160 per night to take advantage of festival season and when that was cancelled reverted to the normal nightly of 83 per night.


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    #88
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    biko wrote: »
    1000/12 is 83 Euro per night instead of 160.
    So the landlady reduced the rent by 50%

    83 euro a night is a lot of money.

    As many people have been saying in response to Government recommendations to not holiday abroad, who can afford it!? 83 euro is a lot. 160 is a f'kin joke. What would that get you in Greece or one of the resort areas for that?

    How many people here could afford 1200+ for a two week holiday. Even without cost of a flight once you account for the accomodation, fuel and food you'll have spent 1600+ That's more than a month's rent for most people or a month and a half of a mortgage payment for some and it's probable that you won't get good weather which is one of the main reasons people travel abroad in the first place. People have been furloughed or have uncertainty in their jobs and they are being asked to hand over money to short term let landlords and hoteliers who are a part of creating the situation they are in with inflated house prices and rent.

    Maybe they should do what some have recommended for other countries. A one time holiday payment for all citizens to use in Ireland. A bailout for the hotel, pubs and restaurants but through holidaying Irish citizens. Personally, I just won't be holidaying at all. Originally, I was going to take a few days off and go down to Kerry but the cost has been creeping up and there are so many British tourists around that I'm not sure it's worth the risk anyway.


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    Wompa1 wrote: »
    83 euro a night is a lot of money.

    As many people have been saying in response to Government recommendations to not holiday abroad, who can afford it!? 83 euro is a lot. 160 is a f'kin joke. What would that get you in Greece or one of the resort areas for that?

    How many people here could afford 1200+ for a two week holiday. Even without cost of a flight once you account for the accomodation, fuel and food you'll have spent 1600+ That's more than a month's rent for most people or a month and a half of a mortgage payment for some and it's probable that you won't get good weather which is one of the main reasons people travel abroad in the first place. People have been furloughed or have uncertainty in their jobs and they are being asked to hand over money to short term let landlords and hoteliers who are a part of creating the situation they are in with inflated house prices and rent.

    Maybe they should do what some have recommended for other countries. A one time holiday payment for all citizens to use in Ireland. A bailout for the hotel, pubs and restaurants but through holidaying Irish citizens. Personally, I just won't be holidaying at all. Originally, I was going to take a few days off and go down to Kerry but the cost has been creeping up and there are so many British tourists around that I'm not sure it's worth the risk anyway.

    83 a night for a full apartment is not expensive. How much would you pay for a hotel room for a family, if you could even fit in one room?

    I find it very strange this is being latched onto as a bad thing, without Airbnb a family would be paying a lot more!

    Also just to say im not agreeing with people coming on holidays during covid just making a general point on pricing. People massively exaggerate the cost of holidaying in Ireland also, I regularly holiday in Ireland rather than going abroad and I can say for a fact it’s great value for money.


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    #90
    biko
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    If you don't want to pay 160 (or 83) for an apartment for a family per night, then don't.
    That is how supply and demand market works.


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    Whereisgalway
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    Air B&Bs have really showed up the hotels


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