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30-06-2020, 21:06   #481
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We shall see.

The panel discussion now was interesting, though patchy in parts. I admit I wasn't interested to hear what the artists' response to the destruction was.

Lots of deluded people in the Q&A asking about zombie census returns!
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27-07-2020, 13:19   #482
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Was it common for someone baptised Joseph to end up using the name James? I didn't think the two were interchangable.

Birth and baptism cert have him down as Joseph (and so do the census in 1901 and 1911), and I'm 99% sure I have the right marriage cert and he's down as James.
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27-07-2020, 14:26   #483
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Never heard of them together.
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27-07-2020, 17:01   #484
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Definitely different names. It would not be unheard of for someone to acquire a middle name, e.g. the father's name, and then to become known by that name, though it would not be an official name.
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Thanks. His father's name was Joseph, which doesn't exactly help.
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27-07-2020, 17:55   #486
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Sometimes James was recorded as Jas and Joseph as Jos.... so scope for confusion there. Having said that, it's not uncommon for people to have several names depending on the context - family, work, friends, education. Also, names can be recorded incorrectly - happened to a friend of mine who discovered when he looked for his birth cert that the first name he'd used all his life wasn't on the cert.
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So his father was also Joseph so likely the child used a middle name to distinguish him from the senior Joseph. The middle name might not have been included at the birth/baptism. There is also an extra name selected at Confirmation. Often diminutives or pet names were used such as Pakky for Patrick, or Baby for a youngest child.
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I don't think you can view trees without a subscription.

It's a matter of personal choice. Lots of things are on both FMP and Ancestry but I find it easier to search FMP. However, I need Ancestry for the DNA stuff and the world databases.
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Update on the James/Joseph mystery.

Turns out that he was named James on the birth register but there was a change of mind a few days later as he was baptised George William.

He's down as George on the 1901 and 1911 census but then looks like he had a change of mind afterwards as he uses James on his marriage cert.

A relative was able to help me with this. Unlikely I would have figured it out otherwise.
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Update on the James/Joseph mystery.

Turns out that he was named James on the birth register but there was a change of mind a few days later as he was baptised George William.

He's down as George on the 1901 and 1911 census but then looks like he had a change of mind afterwards as he uses James on his marriage cert.

A relative was able to help me with this. Unlikely I would have figured it out otherwise.
That's great you got it sorted - those things can drive you crazy!
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St Patrick Day

So I ended up spending a lot of the BH weekend on my US cousins - managed to open up a few previous dead ends. I notice a lot of people used 17 March as their birthday even though their record in the Irish civil records shows a different date. Has anyone else come across this? I suppose if they didn't know their DOB the US authorities put them down as Paddy's day?
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That's great you got it sorted - those things can drive you crazy!
Thanks. I'd say that's a pretty unusual situtation though, where the parents had a change of mind when baptising a child, and then the child had their own change of mind later on in life.
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So I ended up spending a lot of the BH weekend on my US cousins - managed to open up a few previous dead ends. I notice a lot of people used 17 March as their birthday even though their record in the Irish civil records shows a different date. Has anyone else come across this? I suppose if they didn't know their DOB the US authorities put them down as Paddy's day?
It's not the US authorities, it's people themselves. My theory is, they didn't know their actual DOB but they knew the date of St Patrick's Day, so chose that and selected a year they thought was right.

But if someone is actually called Patrick or Patrick Joseph, then it's likely their DOB is in or around that date. I wrote a blog post about earlier this year:

https://cbgenealogy.ie/?p=537
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