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01-06-2019, 11:52   #16
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It did not take long for thr department of defence to strike back

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crim...11301?mode=amp
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Times are bad.

Morale is bad.
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02-06-2019, 23:58   #18
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Did he retire with full pension? Isn’t 20yrs full service in the DF?

I may be wrong and I fully believe that DF personnel are paid and treated like ****e, but why only speak out after leaving and taking the T&C’s all through his career?
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Did he retire with full pension? Isn’t 20yrs full service in the DF?

I may be wrong and I fully believe that DF personnel are paid and treated like ****e, but why only speak out after leaving and taking the T&C’s all through his career?
to avoid punitive measures
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Did he retire with full pension? Isn’t 20yrs full service in the DF?

I may be wrong and I fully believe that DF personnel are paid and treated like ****e, but why only speak out after leaving and taking the T&C’s all through his career?
He might have, depending on the terms of his own contract, but it's hardly relevant whether he's got a pension now. When in service, he simply did not have the right to speak out publicly, and if you read his reasons for leaving, it's quite obvious that it's the current situation that's pushed him to leaving, long before mandatory retirement age.
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03-06-2019, 22:56   #21
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Did he retire with full pension? Isn’t 20yrs full service in the DF?

I may be wrong and I fully believe that DF personnel are paid and treated like ****e, but why only speak out after leaving and taking the T&C’s all through his career?
Just to add what the lads said.

20 years isnt full service.

There are many variations of contracts going around at the moment but your rank will dictate your maximum retirement age. Some specialists can serve up to 65, again dependant on rank.

Some people are required to serve 21 years to qualify for a military pension and are able to recieve it upon leaving...the luckier guys.

Some people have to serve 21 years to be pensionable but will only recieve it once they hit 50. If that person joins at 17 and does 21 years, they have to wait 12 years before they can draw their military pension.....someone can correct me on that, there are some mad contracts out there.
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why only speak out after leaving and taking the T&C’s all through his career?
Because you can be punished and demoted for speaking out while in service. It's usually only retired members or the family of members who ever provide the non-official story.
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Just to add what the lads said.
20 years isnt full service.
For an Officer who joined before 2004, 20 years is Fully Pensionable, and includes Cadet or previous PDF service.
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For an Officer who joined before 2004, 20 years is Fully Pensionable, and includes Cadet or previous PDF service.
Yep.

Must also note there was a 12 years pension too.
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The max point on the pay scale for a Medical Commandant is €93.6k (2nd LSI point).

He'd have got that after 11 years as a commandant.

He'd also have got about €4.5k MSA annually.
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For an Officer who joined before 2004, 20 years is Fully Pensionable, and includes Cadet or previous PDF service.
Full sefrvice is 40 years. After 20 years it is half the full pension which is payable.
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