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Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

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  • #122
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Does anyone know when you can start to download the game for it to be ready to play on the 22nd ? On PS4.




    Looking forward to this game I have to admit...only worry is I'm sh1te at parrying :)


  • #123
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    TheRepentent wrote: »
    Does anyone know when you can start to download the game for it to be ready to play on the 22nd ? On PS4.

    Download should be available now on the PSN.

    Having a baby not sleeping and the in-laws staying this weekend, I'm not going to be able to play this for a while :(


  • #124
    ArthurG
    Registered Users Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    I love the Souls series, just completed my umpteenth run of DS3, and recently started a new DS1 play through. DS2 takes too long lol.

    Based on what I'm seeing and hearing, I think there is going to be a lot of salt with this game due to the very different mechanics. I also am flabbergasted by the removal of co-op, which I tend to use to farm souls and embers a lot. Whilst I'm pretty OK with backstabbing, I never really got parrying down, so the fact that this seems to be such a big part of the combat does worry me a bit.....

    Anyway, all will be known shortly!


  • #125
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,776 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I think a lot of people are expecting Dark souls from this game when From are making a very different game.
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  • #126
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I think a lot of people are expecting Dark souls from this game when From are making a very different game.
    Yeah from what I seen it is different and in a good way.



    Having said that I do think you can see the DS heritage in the game.


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  • #127
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,120 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    ArthurG wrote: »
    I love the Souls series, just completed my umpteenth run of DS3, and recently started a new DS1 play through. DS2 takes too long lol.

    Based on what I'm seeing and hearing, I think there is going to be a lot of salt with this game due to the very different mechanics. I also am flabbergasted by the removal of co-op, which I tend to use to farm souls and embers a lot. Whilst I'm pretty OK with backstabbing, I never really got parrying down, so the fact that this seems to be such a big part of the combat does worry me a bit.....

    Anyway, all will be known shortly!

    Parrying was something I didn't use much in DS outside of PvP but it was a big part of the gameplay in Bloodborne and I had no problems with it once I got used to not having a shield.


  • #128
    Vicxas
    Registered Users Posts: 15,230 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Reviews should start popping up shortly, not that they'll stop me from playing the game anyway.


  • #129
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Reviews should start popping up shortly, not that they'll stop me from playing the game anyway.
    I think I read the day before but I could be wrong .


  • #130
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    Thurs 8am Pacific time I think it was.


  • #131
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,764 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Where are people getting their PC copy?


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  • #132
    brianregan09
    Registered Users Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I'm so torn on buying this or not , I love the whole setting and loved the Tenchu games on PS1 , but I'm turned off by the whole Souls/Bborne type difficulty :/


  • #133
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,764 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    brianregan09 wrote: »
    I'm so torn on buying this or not , I love the whole setting and loved the Tenchu games on PS1 , but I'm turned off by the whole Souls/Bborne type difficulty :/

    Wait until its available cheaper. Probably down to €50 in two weeks.


  • #134
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,776 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    brianregan09 wrote: »
    I'm so torn on buying this or not , I love the whole setting and loved the Tenchu games on PS1 , but I'm turned off by the whole Souls/Bborne type difficulty :/

    The difficulty of these games is overly exaggerated by the press.
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  • #135
    YouSavedMyLife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Don't listen to him, they are some of the hardest games ever created


  • #136
    gimli2112
    Registered Users Posts: 13,407 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    they're easier than I expected but can be bone crushingly difficult at times, particularly if you don't know what you're doing


  • #137
    ArthurG
    Registered Users Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    The difficulty of these games is overly exaggerated by the press.

    Wut? lol


  • #138
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Where are people getting their PC copy?

    GMG still seems to be cheapest, I'm in two minds between buying on GMG now and have it for launch for get it the weekend for a tenner less


  • #139
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,764 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    GMG still seems to be cheapest, I'm in two minds between buying on GMG now and have it for launch for get it the weekend for a tenner less

    Yea that's what I'm thinking as well. Think I'll wait because I don't think I'll have time to play this weekend anyway.


  • #140
    Retr0gamer
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    YouSavedMyLife wrote: »
    Don't listen to him, they are some of the hardest games ever created

    Compared to stuff like ghouls n ghosts, contra hard corp and others they are a walk in the park. They might be tough but they are perfectly manageable by anyone with even the most cack handed amount of skill.

    I just feel it's a shame people let the overly exaggerated difficulty put them off experiencing far an away the best series of games in the last 15 years.
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  • #141
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    They punish stupidity and people who don't learn from their mistakes. Most enemies can be beaten with a bit of thought, and coming up with an actual plan.

    Saying that, i never finished DS3 or Bloodborne...so not sure which of the above i am :/


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  • #142
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,080 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It’s ludicrous to suggest the Souls games aren’t difficult. Are they manageable? Absolutely. Do they reward patience? Of course. Are there harder games? Sure. But they’re still difficult: a basic analysis of the games shows many design choices based around challenging the player in a way that’s unusual in most game design (that comes with the note that there’s also systems to aid players).

    I don’t think that interested players should be scared off by the difficulty: they’re hardly insurmountable, and are deeply, deeply rewarding experiences overall. Their critical acclaim is well-earned, and anybody committed to tackling the games will almost certainly succeed. But the reputation for difficulty is fair. They require time, commitment and patience - the games are rewarding because of it, but still a certain level of commitment and skill is required. There’s no exaggeration or screaming red alarm when I say that: just merely a simple statement of fact. Still can’t recommend them enough, but again seems somewhat absurd to me to suggest their reputation is unearned. The whole ‘git gud’ dismissal of people who will find them difficult - because they are difficult - is condescending and unfair.


  • #143
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,764 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Kiith wrote: »
    They punish stupidity and people who don't learn from their mistakes. Most enemies can be beaten with a bit of thought, and coming up with an actual plan.

    Saying that, i never finished DS3 or Bloodborne...so not sure which of the above i am :/

    Bloodborne is my favorite game of this generation and was my first Souls game. Almost packed it in when I couldn't kill the Cleric Beast but eventually killed him after about the 60th go, I actually ran around the house celebrating :pac:


  • #144
    petes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Playing Dark Souls on the Switch at the minute. Preordered Sekiro on the PS Store this morning :)


  • #145
    Vicxas
    Registered Users Posts: 15,230 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    petes wrote: »
    Playing Dark Souls on the Switch at the minute. Preordered Sekiro on the PS Store this morning :)

    Did anyone see the Japanese Pre-order theme for the PS4, its beautiful.



    Cant see one for us though :/


  • #146
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,776 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    It’s ludicrous to suggest the Souls games aren’t difficult. Are they manageable? Absolutely. Do they reward patience? Of course. Are there harder games? Sure. But they’re still difficult: a basic analysis of the games shows many design choices based around challenging the player in a way that’s unusual in most game design (that comes with the note that there’s also systems to aid players).

    I don’t think that interested players should be scared off by the difficulty: they’re hardly insurmountable, and are deeply, deeply rewarding experiences overall. Their critical acclaim is well-earned, and anybody committed to tackling the games will almost certainly succeed. But the reputation for difficulty is fair. They require time, commitment and patience - the games are rewarding because of it, but still a certain level of commitment and skill is required. There’s no exaggeration or screaming red alarm when I say that: just merely a simple statement of fact. Still can’t recommend them enough, but again seems somewhat absurd to me to suggest their reputation is unearned. The whole ‘git gud’ dismissal of people who will find them difficult - because they are difficult - is condescending and unfair.

    I'm not saying they aren't tough. It's more the marketing and some of the press have this attitude that anyone that isn't some sort of elite players with insane skills need not apply. That there is a gross exaggeration. I find it's scared away a lot of people from trying the games. I've convinced a lot of people that have been scared away from them and the vast majority of them have ended up falling in love with the series.
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  • #147
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude





    Don't watch if you want too avoid spoilers.


  • #148
    brianregan09
    Registered Users Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I'm not scared off I have played Bloodborne and did find it very hard


  • #149
    petes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    It's really all about learning and patience.

    I'd prefer not to mention how many times I've died rolling off a cliff though..


  • #150
    petes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Did anyone see the Japanese Pre-order theme for the PS4, its beautiful.



    Cant see one for us though :/

    Haven't downloaded yet but bit does say you get two themes for pre-ordering!


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  • #151
    brianregan09
    Registered Users Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Were the Tenchu games that difficult ? I know I finished them all but I can't remember how difficult they were I used to use a hit and rooftop strategy , but yeah I'm really edging towards wanting this


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