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Door opening camouflage

  • 12-06-2021 6:42pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭


    We have double doors fitted off the kitchen, set into an old, very thick opening. Our goddam plasterer made a hames of plastering overhead, and to open these doors requires there be a huge gap at the top of the door so as it won’t catch the misaligned ceiling when swinging the door open..a pure pita..anyone know of a not-savage looking trim I could fit to the door that would allow the door swing open, yet conceal the eye-watering gap…I’m thinking those door sweep jobbies, but prettier😌 thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,658 ✭✭✭policarp


    Oldsmokey 2


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Maybe fit additional slips to the frame instead.

    Pics please.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    How many times will you be posting a new thread on this topic.

    I foresee a scolding at some time in the future from a mod if you continue:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    kadman wrote: »
    How many times will you be posting a new thread on this topic.

    I foresee a scolding at some time in the future from a mod if you continue:)
    youre right, i deserve a light whipping :)...posting for years, an still balls it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    kadman wrote: »
    Maybe fit additional slips to the frame instead.

    Pics please.
    you got it....
    back kitchen doors.JPG


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  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    the....horror..


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    oldsmokey wrote: »
    the....horror..

    That plasterer needs a proper kicking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    JayZeus wrote: »
    That plasterer needs a proper kicking.
    He's not alone!
    Sorry...:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    GrumpyMe wrote: »
    He's not alone!
    Sorry...:o
    He was chape!...for a reason it seems ..


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Oh jesus.

    somebody stop the bad man posting them nasty pictures.:D


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Scribe a new piece to fit the ceiling.
    Make it so it comes down each side a bit lower than the door tops.

    Mark the doors, take them down cut of the top line, and then fit the scribe part to the ceiling,
    rehang the doors.

    Of course in fairness the doors are reasonably straight, so you could not expect the plasterer
    to slap on 1/2"+ to straighten the appearance.

    Scribed piece should do that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    I must be seeing it wrong, but there appears to no head on the door lining ( or frame).
    Maybe height was an issue.
    In fairness to the plasterer it would have been difficult to do without the doors hanging.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Thats exactly the problem. No frame head, only 2 frame stiles.

    I suspect it was an after thought to place doors in this location, where there was none before.

    I would blame the chippy for not fitting a complete frame.

    Now a head has to be scribed in, and the door tops trimmed to suit.

    Plasterer gets a pass from me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    kadman wrote: »
    Thats exactly the problem. No frame head, only 2 frame stiles.

    I suspect it was an after thought to place doors in this location, where there was none before.

    I would blame the chippy for not fitting a complete frame.

    Now a head has to be scribed in, and the door tops trimmed to suit.

    Plasterer gets a pass from me.

    Tought the same also
    Was the plasterer awear the celing was to become the Head of the frame
    For double doors there should of been some sort of timber head put in place even a 20mm head would help to
    1. Give a hard line to margin the plaster off
    2. Provide grounds for a door stop
    3 Provide a frame for ironmongery to secure the leaf door.

    Only non patch job fix now would be to scribe a head in to place as Kadman mentioned and cut the top of the doors to suit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    kadman wrote: »
    Oh jesus.

    somebody stop the bad man posting them nasty pictures.:D
    I could give ya worse!


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    kadman wrote: »
    Thats exactly the problem. No frame head, only 2 frame stiles.

    I suspect it was an after thought to place doors in this location, where there was none before.

    I would blame the chippy for not fitting a complete frame.

    Now a head has to be scribed in, and the door tops trimmed to suit.

    Plasterer gets a pass from me.
    Youre bang on, we were going to have a sliding door...we've bodged a fix, carpenter made a filler piece, shaped to follow the profile of top of door to fix to frame top, , ...not great but looks better with the doors closed..still a horror with door open.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    oldsmokey wrote: »
    I could give ya worse!

    Kadman has just left the building:D

    So long as a half decent chippy scribed in a new head to the top of the frame and trimmed the door tops to suit, then it should be ok.

    People tend to look at things at eye level.. When the doors are open, you may see a scribed head, but so what. If its well done, it makes little difference.

    No plasterer on the planet, could have slapped on bonding to fill out 20mm in the middle of the hall, tapering out to nothing at the edges.

    Scribed head was a best option.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    :)Can we have a pic


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    you're a fierce man for the pics :)..if i had something pretty to post it'd be better...anyways, here's a quick remedy...im hoping the painter man can tidy with a shot of caulk.022.JPG
    Thanks for yer input.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    A pic is worth a thousand words. You dont need to explain anything at all with a pic.

    Takes the guesswork out of it, and offers a better option of getting exactly the answer you are looking for.

    I would never had suggested scribing in a new head if you had not posted the pic I asked for:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Jesus H Christ that's worse :eek:
    When scribing was suggested the idea was the door heads were cut level about 18 mm from the lowest point of the ceiling and the new frame head was scribed to the ceiling .
    Never in a million would the actual door head be scribed well maybe 5 mm back to nothing to accommodate an off level head but never to that extent.
    That's shocking bad form from a carpenter.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Jesus H Christ that's worse :eek:
    When scribing was suggested the idea was the door heads were cut level about 18 mm from the lowest point of the ceiling and the new frame head was scribed to the ceiling .
    Never in a million would the actual door head be scribed well maybe 5 mm back to nothing to accommodate an off level head but never to that extent.
    That's shocking bad form from a carpenter.

    Remember I did the say the plasterer was an innocent man:D

    And in all fairness no one called a carpenter would admit to that:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    kadman wrote: »
    Remember I did the say the plasterer was an innocent man:D

    And in all fairness no one called a carpenter would admit to that:p

    Yeah, it’s fierce…still…makes boards interesting to have this level of actual real life Dawfaking posted. Must ask…what’s scribing? this thread is taking on a life that’s not justified 😅


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    oldsmokey wrote: »
    Yeah, it’s fierce…still…makes boards interesting to have this level of actual real life Dawfaking posted. Must ask…what’s scribing? this thread is taking on a life that’s not justified 😅

    Your chippy should have asked the same question:D



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    If you had posted this in woodcraft forum, then......


    I could have closed the thread after the second post, and given you a lifetime ban:eek::D

    Just to see what it felt like to wield such power:p:D


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