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RTE: Drivetime with Sarah McInerney & Cormac O hEadhra

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    #32
    0xzmro3n4y7lb5
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    Cole wrote: »
    You're opening up a can of worms here...well for me anyway! I put 'correct' in inverted commas to suggest that there is often no single way to pronounce words, just standard (correct) or non-standard (incorrect/inferior) pronunciations depending on people's perceptions of different dialects. Joe Duffy's pronunciation is pretty standard for his Dublin dialect, but it is see as non-standard and, therefore, not 'correct' by many.

    Anyway, Cormac's pronunciation of Oireachtas is the standard pronunciation in Connacht Irish...as far as I'm aware.

    He's got a knee trembling R on him then.

    Who needs French or Italian when you've got a Connacht R. :p


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    #33
    Cole
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    Judson Quick Scabby wrote: »
    He's got a knee trembling R on him then.

    Who needs French or Italian when you've got a Connacht R. :p

    He does lay it on fairly thick alright.


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    #34
    padd b1975
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    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Better get used to that dude, native Irish speaker.

    Watch for Fianna Fáil, and Fine Gael......

    Bus Eireann is another one that gets the full treatment.


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    #35
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    Cole wrote: »
    You're opening up a can of worms here...well for me anyway! I put 'correct' in inverted commas to suggest that there is often no single way to pronounce words, just standard (correct) or non-standard (incorrect/inferior) pronunciations depending on people's perceptions of different dialects. Joe Duffy's pronunciation is pretty standard for his Dublin dialect, but it is see as non-standard and, therefore, not 'correct' by many.

    Anyway, Cormac's pronunciation of Oireachtas is the standard pronunciation in Connacht Irish...as far as I'm aware.

    What I'm really getting at here, and worded it badly, is that Joe Duffy's *diction* is appalling, irrespective of his accent. Cormac's diction is excellent although to non-native speakers like myself it pulls my ears out on stalks.


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    padd b1975
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    What I'm really getting at here, and worded it badly, is that Joe Duffy's *diction* is appalling, irrespective of his accent. Cormac's diction is excellent although to non-native speakers like myself it pulls my ears out on stalks.

    He's definitely "mickey-waving" his bilingualism.

    That's what's annoying.


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    pc7
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    I think its kind of sexy.................. runs off and waits for the thread to explode!


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    #38
    amlinopta
    Registered Users Posts: 800 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    “The window closing on perhaps a national lockdown,” Grim Reaper in full flow yesterday revelling in another 400 cases


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    Brendan Bendar
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    amlinopta wrote: »
    “The window closing on perhaps a national lockdown,” Grim Reaper in full flow yesterday revelling in another 400 cases

    The Doomsday Dog was fast out of the traps, the deep breathing, the rasping breath, the doomsday pump being pressured up and exulting in the spread and problems.

    Lad needs to be cut down.


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    Cole
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    I listened for the first time this evening (from around 5) and thought it was pretty awful.

    An interview with the parents of a young lad who got Covid-19. Good that he's recovering, but don't we get enough of this kind of interview with Tubridy, Byrne, Duffy and D'Arcy everyday?

    Inviting listeners to text in their opinions on ministers' performances in the new government so far...cue Fianna Fail and Fine Gael supporters texting in praise for their favourite ministers. Then we had the farcically bad piece with Barry Lenihan and journalist Aoife-Grace Moore (sounded really out of her depth) reviewing the new government's performance and pulling scores out of their arses for ministers.

    The Hazel Chu and Gina Miller interview was okay.

    A 'journalist' from the Daily Star reviewing TV shows...not even worth a comment.


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    Brendan Bendar
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    Cole wrote: »
    I listened for the first time this evening (from around 5) and thought it was pretty awful.

    An interview with the parents of a young lad who got Covid-19. Good that he's recovering, but don't we get enough of this kind of interview with Tubridy, Byrne, Duffy and D'Arcy everyday?

    Inviting listeners to text in their opinions on ministers' performances in the new government so far...cue Fianna Fail and Fine Gael supporters texting in praise for their favourite ministers. Then we had the farcically bad piece with Barry Lenihan and journalist Aoife-Grace Moore (sounded really out of her depth) reviewing the new government's performance and pulling scores out of their arses for ministers.

    The Hazel Chu and Gina Miller interview was okay.

    A 'journalist' from the Daily Star reviewing TV shows...not even worth a comment.

    Going very tabloid Cole, inviting judgement from Lenihan is hardly impartial.

    All you can do with that lad is wind him up like the Duracell bunny and let him off.

    Negativity central.

    Not good so far.


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    #42
    Cole
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    Cole wrote: »
    An interview with the parents of a young lad who got Covid-19.

    Just saw this young lad on TV. He's gone through a hell of a time but fair play to him, he's a rock of sense...appealing to other young people to do the right thing and that sticking to the public health advice is not that difficult. We need more like him and fewer of those queuing up to sympathise with (some) 'young people' who moan about not being able to socialise with groups of friends...so they can go on the p1ss.


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    sligojoek
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    Cole wrote: »
    Just saw this young lad on TV. He's gone through a hell of a time but fair play to him, he's a rock of sense...appealing to other young people to do the right thing and that sticking to the public health advice is not that difficult. We need more like him and fewer of those queuing up to sympathise with (some) 'young people' who moan about not being able to socialise with groups of friends...so they can go on the p1ss.

    That's all well and good. But how many of the "target" young people actually listen to Cormac and Sarah's show. Might be better off putting that stuff on 2fm or i104 or suchlike.


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    #44
    Cole
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    sligojoek wrote: »
    That's all well and good. But how many of the "target" young people actually listen to Cormac and Sarah's show. Might be better off putting that stuff on 2fm or i104 or suchlike.

    I wasn't suggesting that he should be on the likes of Drivetime (even his parents interview didn't work there imo). I mean media more broadly...TV, radio, social media...the aul Tickety Tock etc.


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    Brendan Bendar
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    ‘The Doomsday Dog’ is scraping in the traps.......


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    amlinopta
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    Back to back grim reapers George Lee and Barry Lenehan, major disappointment if we only go to level 3


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    #47
    Brendan Bendar
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    And they are off.........building up around the first bend........ breathing heavy ..... on the back straight....funerial vioice....stirring up the ante...... more bad news ....great .... cadence rising......The Doomsday dog has eased into a win.... now that the place has well and truly stirred up .....back to the kennels.


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    #48
    Harry Palmr
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    I just heard about 5 minutes on the way home, it's very "casual Friday" between the hosts, more like local radio than the news channel of record.


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    #49
    Brendan Bendar
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I just heard about 5 minutes on the way home, it's very "casual Friday" between the hosts, more like local radio than the news channel of record.

    Both seem to be ‘spaffing ‘ off the wall after hearing all this bad news.

    Unfortunately gone down the tabloid track..... not a good idea.

    Getting difficult Harry, as you say, to take their reportage seriously.


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    #50
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    Well Sarah certainly kept pressing the point and questioning Josepha Madigan, much better than Claire in the morning


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    #51
    washiskin
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    I can see her getting very fed up of his interruptions and guffaws...... it's gone from a reasonably serious news and current affairs programme to Daithí and Maura.


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    #52
    john123470
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    George Lee, a number of years back, left RTE to become a politician, a tee-dee. He swore he'd not return to Rte .. even if his stint as a tee-dee failed for whatever reason. He wanted, good man that he is, to try to help the country, do his bit etc thru hard times. (2008?)

    Well, fail it did .. think he wasn't ready / couldn't believe the amount of skullduggery goin on in the big house etc ..

    Now he's back on RTE .. ?

    I mean he swore he wouldnt darken their door again


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    john123470 wrote: »
    George Lee, a number of years back, left RTE to become a politician, a tee-dee. He swore he'd not return to Rte .. even if his stint as a tee-dee failed for whatever reason. He wanted, good man that he is, to try to help the country, do his bit etc thru hard times. (2008?)

    Well, fail it did .. think he wasn't ready / couldn't believe the amount of skullduggery goin on in the big house etc ..

    Now he's back on RTE .. ?

    I mean he swore he wouldnt darken their door again

    Ray D’Arcy taught him all he knew about that


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    Brendan Bendar
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ray D’Arcy taught him all he knew about that

    Correct..... when the going got tough........


    Back to the Mother Ship......


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    #55
    ShamNNspace
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    This programme is gone to the dogs simple as that. Is there any world news happening at all? Non stop covid goin round and round in circles all noise and bluster


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    Brendan Bendar
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    ShamNNspace wrote: »
    This programme is gone to the dogs simple as that. Is there any world news happening at all? Non stop covid goin round and round in circles all noise and bluster

    Seems to be a hammering attack on the Govt, and no attempt at balance.

    Now not saying that the Govt. didn’t deserve criticism but this programme seems to be a tabloidesque tool to attack the establishment.

    The Sun or the Mirror would be where the level of balance is.


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    #57
    3d4life
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    ShamNNspace wrote: »
    This programme is gone to the dogs simple as that. Is there any world news happening at all? Non stop covid goin round and round in circles all noise and bluster


    'twas the same at lunchtime - Dobbo just about managed to fill the time - it was all chat with fellow RTE'ites. Couldn't they at least pinch something off CNN or France24


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    #58
    ShamNNspace
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    Vox pops on a supposedly serious news programme for heavens sake. Its just tabloid fare for the most part now


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    jelutong
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    Well Sarah certainly kept pressing the point and questioning Josepha Madigan, much better than Claire in the morning

    Damned with faint praise.


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    Cole
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    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Unfortunately gone down the tabloid track..... not a good idea.

    Very much so.
    ShamNNspace wrote: »
    Vox pops on a supposedly serious news programme for heavens sake.

    Some of the comments from those queuing outside the toy shop...I have no words.


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    Brendan Bendar
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    Dubs.... every one of them.

    De Crissmas is de most important.


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