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World Championship Qualifiers

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  • #92
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 19,915 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Angles McManus doing well 6-3 lead over Louis Heathcoat.

    The milkman (terrible nickname) losing toAshley Carry 6-3. Milkins has an average shot time in the 18 second range. That's impressive - but not really if you're losing.

    5-2 to Wenbo now. Hard to see Fergal coming back from that.


  • #93
    Joe_ Public
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    This round is best of 19 so they'll be back to play to a finish tonight.


  • #94
    El_Duderino 09
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    This round is best of 19 so they'll be back to play to a finish tonight.

    Oh, I hadn't copped it's the longer matches in this round. He's still in with a chance then.

    I'll edit my earlier post so I'm not fake news.


  • #95
    bradolf pittler
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Angles McManus is through. Comprehensive scoreline of 6-2 over Louis Heathcoat.

    The milkman (terrible nickname) is out. Beaten by Ashley Carry 6-3. Milkins had an average shot time in the 18 second range. That's impressive - but not really if you're losing.

    5-2 to Wenbo now. Hard to see Fergal coming back from that.

    The matches are now best of 19.:)
    Jjust watching Selt 1 v 7 Maflin.
    Really poor standard. Especially from Selt


  • #96
    Joe_ Public
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    Fergal off the hook again there. Not finishing out frames clinically enough, that was nearly the third he'd chucked away. 4-5 would be great session score if he could manage it.


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  • #97
    Joe_ Public
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    Good steal that to get 4-5. Considering he butchered two frames it's only an ok scoreline but could have been a lot worse at the same time. If liang doesnt cut the errors, i can see fergal taking it after the customary battle.

    If i was a top 16 guy looking on, I'd be thinking the one I'd want to avoid in the draw is Ursenbacher. Dangerous young opponent.


  • #98
    bradolf pittler
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Good steal that to get 4-5. Considering he butchered two frames it's only an ok scoreline but could have been a lot worse at the same time. If liang doesnt cut the errors, i can see fergal taking it after the customary battle.

    If i was a top 16 guy looking on, I'd be thinking the one I'd want to avoid in the draw is Ursenbacher. Dangerous young opponent.

    I'd be thinking the opposite,I havent seen anything from any of these players on show this year.
    41 centurys in 112 matches isn't a great return.
    Famous last words but i doubt there will be any major 1st round shocks coming from this crop.


  • #99
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 19,915 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    bradolf pittler wrote: »
    I'd be thinking the opposite,I havent seen anything from any of these players on show this year.
    41 centurys in 112 matches isn't a great return.
    Famous last words but i doubt there will be any major 1st round shocks coming from this crop.

    Yet there usually are a couple of first round shocks. Those guys have a few rounds under their belt by the time they qualify. They're warmed up so the first round gives the qualifier a small advantage in that sense.

    The length of the tournament means that the qualifiers are massively disadvantaged if they were to get to get to the later rounds. So its an advantage in the first round but a big disadvantage by the later rounds.


  • #100
    bradolf pittler
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Yet there usually are a couple of first round shocks. Those guys have a few rounds under their belt by the time they qualify. They're warmed up so the first round gives the qualifier a small advantage in that sense.

    The length of the tournament means that the qualifiers are massively disadvantaged if they were to get to get to the later rounds. So its an advantage in the first round but a big disadvantage by the later rounds.

    I know what you mean but should the likes of Bingham,Hawkins and Bingtao who are 14,15,and 16 really fear Slessor,Maflin or Ursenbacher?
    Like i said famous last words and anyone can have an off day but theres a huge gulf in class between the top players and the lower ranked guys


  • #101
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 19,915 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    bradolf pittler wrote: »
    I know what you mean but should the likes of Bingham,Hawkins and Bingtao who are 14,15,and 16 really fear Slessor,Maflin or Ursenbacher?
    Like i said famous last words and anyone can have an off day but theres a huge gulf in class between the top players and the lower ranked guys

    Yeah there really is a big difference in quality between the top guys and the rest. But, the qualifiers have to be both in good for and warmed up and in their stride by the first round in order to qualify. The top16 haven't played a competitive match in 6 weeks. These upsets do happen.


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  • #102
    Joe_ Public
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    bradolf pittler wrote: »
    I know what you mean but should the likes of Bingham,Hawkins and Bingtao who are 14,15,and 16 really fear Slessor,Maflin or Ursenbacher?
    Like i said famous last words and anyone can have an off day but theres a huge gulf in class between the top players and the lower ranked guys

    I'm not sure where you picked up the idea this is potentially a good crop of qualifiers from my post. I never suggested it was. Just that of them Ursenbacher, if he closes the deal tonight, is one I'd prefer to avoid. I like what I've seen of him, he's fearless and goes for his shots which can go wrong but also makes him dangerous. I'd prefer a known quantity like Maflin or McManus, i know i can beat them.

    The top 16 guys dont have to look down and fear anybody, but also at the same time nobody has to face the likes of Bingham or Bingtao quaking in their shoes exactly. There'll be 2 or 3 seeds minimum falling in the first round probably because thats what happens every year. Circumstances this year could even mean one or two more, hard to say.


  • #103
    El_Duderino 09
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    Alexander Ursenbacher and Andrew Higginson playing each other and both have an average shot time below 20seconds.


  • #104
    ArmaniJeanss
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    Last 5 years. 16 seeds - 4, 6, 4, 7, 3 have lost in the first round.
    Average just under 5. So definitely vulnerability there.


  • #105
    Joe_ Public
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    People say Trump was a great champion last year, with some merit to be fair, but forget he was within a single shot of exiting first round. Should have been gone.


  • #106
    El_Duderino 09
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    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Last 5 years. 16 seeds - 4, 6, 4, 7, 3 have lost in the first round.
    Average just under 5. So definitely vulnerability there.

    Great knowledge. That's much higher than I'd have guessed. Given there are 16 first round matches, that's just less than one in 3 matches.


  • #107
    Joe_ Public
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    Some great shots there from Fergal. Longer this goes on more I'd fancy him to come through.


  • #108
    Joe_ Public
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    Another excellent frame, 8-7, ahead for first time in the match. Looking very strong.


  • #109
    bradolf pittler
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    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Last 5 years. 16 seeds - 4, 6, 4, 7, 3 have lost in the first round.
    Average just under 5. So definitely vulnerability there.

    No doubt there have always been upsets but i just feel this year i'd favour the seeds and if there were to be upsets i think it could be from a more old school type like a McManus,Hamilton or Wenbo/O Brien.

    By the way i'm really enjoying the Wenbo v O'Brien match.
    Fergal 8-7 up


  • #110
    dfx-
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    I wonder how long that 16th frame would've gone on for without the re-rack


  • #111
    zuutroy
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    dfx- wrote: »
    I wonder how long that 16th frame would've gone on for without the re-rack

    Might have been quicker than this!


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  • #112
    Peter File
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    Best of 3 now!!. Eurosport know that when Fergal plays they dont need to worry about early finishes!


  • #113
    Joe_ Public
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    Fergal gonna have to do it the hard way. Fair play to liang, good response after going behind, surprised me how patient he's been. Been an absorbing contest, still never write Fergal off.


  • #114
    fran38
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    Fergal can have no complaints if he loses this. Missing middle distance pots and then overcutting that one to the centre pocket.

    Wenbo looking the sharper of the two now.


  • #115
    fran38
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    Gripping. One big effort Fetgal.


  • #116
    Joe_ Public
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    Great break under the circumstances. Torture watching this now, have a feeling going to be one long battle left here.


  • #117
    jams100
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    Uh oh :(


  • #118
    fran38
    Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭fran38


    Nite nite


  • #119
    jams100
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    Impressive last frame from Liang in fairness


  • #120
    Rothko
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    Pity, I would have liked to have seen Fergal make it.


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  • #121
    Joe_ Public
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    Just gutted for him, when he went ahead i was confident he'd do it but liang dug in well to be fair to him. Hard one to take, just have to hope he doesn't lose the tour card as well but that looks precarious too.


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