Landlord asking for photo ID before viewing?

Baby01032012 wrote: »

Common sense to me. I’ve rented a property to tenants who provided false identification and false references. Didn’t pay rent for 12 months and carried on criminal activity which involved visits from the guards.

Maybe for people who you are actually offering the property to otherwise it is excessive.

subrosa wrote: »

The DPC looked into the issue of photo ID in their 2018 Annual Report. The commission said:



The report is here

But they will do nothing about it. Typical of the Irish " Its a disgrace Joe" attitude

subrosa wrote: »

The DPC looked into the issue of photo ID in their 2018 Annual Report. The commission said:



The report is here

They made a similar point on PPSNs and Banks Statements in earlier reports.

jim-mcdee wrote: »

They are looking for it because trouble maker's won't give it.

Just so we know what you mean by troublemaker. Is it anyone who wishes for the law to be respected by their landlord? Any law?

We know that landlords can get away with using illegal techniques to their perceived advantage because it's a difficult market for tenants, but they must own the fact that they are breaking the law, that's all people are saying here.

Now if I had a choice between a professional landlord like a REIT and a chancer breaking the law because he know he can get away with it then I know who I'd choose, but that won't always be the case sadly.

What is the point of sending the photo id prior to viewing ?
Surely it cannot be verified until the actual viewing.

It should be enough to produce id at viewing and provide a copy only if actually renting.

jim-mcdee wrote: »

Nothing illegal about asking for someone's ID I believe. If you are too paranoid to provide it, no harm no foul

Read the GDPR and implementing regulations in Ireland Data Protection Acts 1988 - 2018. As a professional landlord and data controller I presume you're compliant?

Again, I get that landlords have the upper hand, still doesn't make it right. It's nothing about paranoia, it's about following the law.

I always ask to see official ID : passport preferably or drivers license - that way I know at minimum the real name of whom I am dealing with. I ask for it to be brought to a viewing - if you dont then you dont get to rent,simples. Its as important as a reference and ability to pay.

JustAThought wrote: »

I always ask to see official ID : passport preferably or drivers license - that way I know at minimum the real name of whom I am dealing with. I ask for it to be brought to a viewing - if you dont then you dont get to rent,simples. Its as important as a reference and ability to pay.

We get the landlords have the upper hand and could ask for all sorts of personal data at viewing that it is illegal to process that early e.g. PPSN, bank statements, etc, and desperate people will provide it.

All I am saying is that professional landlords should follow the law whether they have the upper hand or not.

EDIT
I think asking to see the photo ID without taking a copy is a much more minor form for processing the personal data, and an argument could be made to justify that at the viewing stage. I'd be interested to here the DPC's opinion on this.

usernamegoes wrote: »

Just so we know what you mean by troublemaker. Is it anyone who wishes for the law to be respected by their landlord? Any law?

We know that landlords can get away with using illegal techniques to their perceived advantage because it's a difficult market for tenants, but they must own the fact that they are breaking the law, that's all people are saying here.

Now if I had a choice between a professional landlord like a REIT and a chancer breaking the law because he know he can get away with it then I know who I'd choose, but that won't always be the case sadly.

By trouble maker I’m sure he also means someone who is going to cause him hassle. The landlord wants a simple life. If someone wants the landlord to trust them with their property which is worth several hundred thousand Euro’s but thinks showing ID is wrong that’s a sign they are going to give hassle.

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Not the norm but its a renters market. LL can ask for anything he/she wants. You don't have to give it of course but then you get to view the property.

Lls could have over 100 people replying to the ad. They are looking at different ways to eliminate time wasters or people the deem unsuitable. This LL seems to believe that they can weed out some unsuitable ones by seeing Id upfront. I don't see how that works but they are entitled to ask for it if they want

They are verifying the identity. Take a female landlord organising a viewing. For her security she wants to know the identity of the stranger who will be in the house alone with her.

ted1 wrote:

They are verifying the identity. Take a female landlord organising a viewing. For her security she wants to know the identity of the stranger who will be in the house alone with her.

Sounds reasonable enough to me now that you put it that way.

ted1 wrote: »

By trouble maker I’m sure he also means someone who is going to cause him hassle. The landlord wants a simple life. If someone wants the landlord to trust them with their property which is worth several hundred thousand Euro’s but thinks showing ID is wrong that’s a sign they are going to give hassle.

A troublemaker is anyone who wishes the law is followed? This is a sign of how bad its gotten! We need supply to increase so the law can be followed.

Del2005 wrote: »

How do you know that the landlord isn't complying with data protection legislation? You assume that they aren't but that is a big jump to take.

Art 5(c) personal data shall be adequate, relevant, and limited to what is necessary.

The DPC has told us before that this is not the case pre-signing of the lease.

It has also told us there is no lawful basis under Art 6.

usernamegoes wrote: »

Are you in favor of landlords giving their ID to member of the public who show up to viewing, for their safety too?

Yep. i think both sides need to.be sure who they are meeting.