Legion TV Series.

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Well shît, that was a phenomenal episode of television.

It was savage. I think you summed it up perfectly!

Possibly the best series opener I have ever seen. I think I was lucky in that I hadn't seen any trailers, so everything on the screen was new to me.

It was a master class in cinematography (Not that I would know much about such things)

The sets, the dialogue, the acting & music were superb.

It was nothing short of perfection as far as I am concerned. I sat watching it with a huge grin on my face! It all worked so well, especially the bit where it went letterbox/widescreen. How cool and apt was that?

The worry is, that was the series opener, and it was top notch, but was that because it was the season opener and the story suited it? Could they actually sustain such wizardry for a whole season? I am doubtful, but glad they did what they did!

Even if the series doesn't work out, I'll still go back and watch that episode again at some stage.

On a side note, serious bang of Noel Gallagher'ism of yer man

If you are reading this and and it's all new to you, just watch the first episode, avoid the trailers!

FYI, there's another thread on this in the TV General forum that has a bit more chat.

Really enjoyed episode 7.

Episode 6 was sp bizarre.

Am trying to get so many people to watch it.

Delighted it got a second series

conorhal wrote: »

I'm only two episodes into this and really uncomfortable with this show, is this Scientology propaganda?

The whole 'voices are the real you', 'mental illness is only a lie designed to repress your real power and potential', 'psychiatric medicine is a conspiratorial lie' crap is getting to me. By episode two they're sitting around a table gripping freaking Scientology e meters in an 'auditing session' to explore memories and it smacks of 'going clear', is this satire or something worrying? Because I really don't want to continue watching this show, it's uncomfortable viewing and it's portrayal of mental illness as a maguffin is very, very wrong. I can buy radio active spider bites and even a Matrix like 'taking the red pill' metaphor, but going off your meds because the doctors are conspiring against you is some seriously fukked up message to put out and this show is utterly irresponsible at best, scientology propaganda at worst.

I suggest you continue watching. Although you've really taken things up the wrong way in the first two episodes so it might not get better for you.

No idea where you're coming from with the scientology stuff btw. It's a superhero show. The main protagonist has telepathic and telekinesis powers and the mutant story has always been about people not fitting in to society. Doctors misdiagnosing mutant powers as a form of mental disorder or condition makes a lot of sense. David (as you're only on episode 2 I won't say much) has been told his whole life he has mental disorders and he's ill, he's been freed and the other mutants are helping him to piece together his life. That they are doing this through a mutant that can take you through your memories is a genius mechanism IMO.

And yes, at times it is uncomfortable viewing but I like that about the show. It uses audio and visual trickery to disorient the viewer (much like David is disoriented) and its brilliant

conorhal wrote: »

There is a rather stark comparison between scenes in the show and Scientology practices particluarly 'auditing':



(Scientology founder) Hubbard was critical of psychiatry.Referring to psychiatrists as "psychs", Hubbard regarded psychiatrists as denying human spirituality and peddling fake cures. He was also convinced that psychiatrists were themselves deeply unethical individuals, committing "extortion, mayhem and murder. Our files are full of evidence on them."

The show (well in the first couple of episodes I watched) makes subtle allusions to Scientology. Even if I'm barking up the wrong tree altogether, I have no discomfort with it's visual style, I'm not however impressed with it's use of schizophrenia as a mcguffin or how it also relects Scientology's view of psychiatry and I just wonder if there isn't a bit of hollywood scientology propagana at play here.

Do Scientology have a monopoly on holding cylindrical devices? It was clear that room and the devices were there to enhance the memory guys powers, much like Xavier with Cerebro. I think you're reading too much into it. You'll see (if you continue) that David's problems are nothing to do with medication and are entirely rooted in good old mutant shenanigans

What other allusions to scientology are there out of interest?

What's wrong with the schizophrenia angle btw? You call it a McGuffin, I see it as a wonderful take on how we (humanity) views the emerging mutant population... hearing voices? Yup you're schizophrenic. Afraid to be touched? Claim you can remember your own birth? Say you're the Iron Fist (from another Marvel show)? Mutant stories have always been about isolation at their core and what better way to do that than have the protagonist believe he is ill because it's all he's been told his whole life. Anyway, if you continue to watch the show you'll see where it all stems from and it's very much mutant related. As I mentioned before, I really like how they view mutant powers as mental disorders. There's an episode in particular that really pushed that. I loved it... my impression is you'll be offended by it.

and a promo:

Amorphous!

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adjective: amorphous

without a clearly defined shape or form.