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UFC 241: Cormier vs. Miocic 2

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    #92
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Not surprised. As great as the jump to HW was for DC. People really forgot that Stipe was originally a decent favourite for good reason.


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    #93
    brendanwalsh
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    Cormier was much better fighter. Shame he lost via the same trick Jones stung him with


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    #94
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    thought DC was going to retire there


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    #95
    Axwell
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Great fight, feel sorry for DC think he would have retired anyways had he won and gone out on a high, dont think theres anything left for him to compete for at this stage and think he will call it a day. Fair play to Stipe though, great comeback and finish.


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    #96
    Macdarack
    Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Macdarack


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    thought DC was going to retire there

    The quivering in his voice there says he'll retire.


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    #97
    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Very disappointing.

    HW is just so high variance.

    Really thought DC had him but the body shots changed it all and he closed the show well.


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    #98
    Macdarack
    Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Macdarack


    Warning I know f all about mma but was Diazs boxing as good as we all hear and is his cardio as good as we all hear, he was in some good positions to flurry a load of punches last night and it was frustrating to watch when he didn't use his opportunitys to stand dish out a flurry. He looked tired early too.
    I could be talking absolute shiit too.


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    #99
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Post-fight Nate is some craic.

    Big ol' snort of a laugh when he didn't seem to know who Colby is when asked about him.


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    #100
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,480 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Beaming for Stipe, savage body shots. Feel kinda bad for DC, would have been a nice way to retire if he got the w.

    Nate vs Jorge has to happen ASAP.


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    #101
    JacksonHeightsOwn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    Just watched it there. Delighted for Miocic, I wouldn't be the biggest fan of Cormier. Nothing personal, just not a fan of his style.

    It was an enjoyable fight, but the stand up skills on show where beyond poor. It seems there's literally no thought to defence in their stand up.

    There's not an ounce of head movement from either fighter. It looks to me like their strategy is they'll hit each other, and they'll see who's face can withstand the most damage. It's pretty archaic really


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    #102
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Certainly a trilogy on the cards now. Can't not happen really.


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    #103
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    chrisbonnie wrote: »
    There's not an ounce of head movement from either fighter. It looks to me like their strategy is they'll hit each other, and they'll see who's face can withstand the most damage. It's pretty archaic really

    That's HW for you


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    #104
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    DC often seems to give up on his wrestling when he's winning, if he'd stuck with it he'd have won this one too. I could see another rematch


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    #105
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,480 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Jesus Max, let me grab the tissues first.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B1UWYyYBF29/?igshid=mml3u8g3k72j


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    #106
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭Homelander


    That really was one hell of a card.


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    #107
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,954 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    What a fun card.

    Romero and Costa, two granite chins! Each of them calling each other into the centre was just awesome. $50k bonuses well deserved!

    Nate looked so good after 3 years off, that's no easy feat picking apart Pettis like he did. Excellent pressure throughout, I can't wait for him and Jorge.

    Stipe with possibly the best recovery around I've seen, for 3 rounds he had absolutely nothing for DC. That change up to the body shots was genius, gutted for DC but I think he was too cocky, he gave no respect to Stipe's power and he should of stuck to his wrestling and seen it out. Delighted Stipe is the champ again though, he one tough SOB. The retirement bells are ringing for DC now but I hope he has one more fight left in him.


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    #108
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I'd say DC is gutted the Lesnar fight didn't happen. 500k for the fight. Would've earned 3 or 4 times that for a Lesnar fight.


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    #109
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,954 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    The Nal wrote: »
    I'd say DC is gutted the Lesnar fight didn't happen. 500k for the fight. Would've earned 3 or 4 times that for a Lesnar fight.

    Ya I would have liked to see him get paid, deserves it like. He could still get a decent enough payday with a trilogy fight against Stipe or Jones but that quiver in his voice Saturday said to me he's done.


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    #110
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    rob316 wrote: »
    Ya I would have liked to see him get paid, deserves it like. He could still get a decent enough payday with a trilogy fight against Stipe or Jones but that quiver in his voice Saturday said to me he's done.

    He was worse in his interview as the second fight with Jones. He might decide to call it a day but I wouldn't say he's done based on his interview.


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    #111
    The Rooster
    Registered Users Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    Full salaries for UFC 241 as provided by the California State Athletic Commission:

    Stipe Miocic: $800,000 — $750,000 flat fee plus $50,000 for ‘Performance of the Night’
    Daniel Cormier: $500,000 flat fee.
    Nate Diaz: $250,000 flat fee.
    Anthony Pettis: $155,000
    Paulo Costa: $170,000 — $60,000 to show, $60,000 to win plus $50,000 for ‘Fight of the Night’
    Yoel Romero: $200,000 — $150,000 to show plus $50,000 for ‘Fight of the Night’
    Sodiq Yusuff: $28,000 — $14,000 to show, $14,000 to win
    Gabriel Benitez: $40,000
    Derek Brunson: $190,000 — $95,000 to show, $95,000 to win
    Ian Heinisch: $25,000
    Khama Worthy: $74,000 — $12,000 to show, $12,000 to win plus $50,000 for ‘Performance of the Night’
    Devonte Smith: $23,000
    Cory Sandhagen: $154,000 — $77,000 to show, $77,000 to win
    Raphael Assuncao: $79,000
    Drakkar Klose: $56,000 — $28,000 to show, $28,000 to win
    Christos Giagos: $28,000
    Casey Kenney: $28,000 — $14,000 to show, $14,000 to win
    Manny Bermudez: $20,000
    Hannah Cifers: $28,000 — $14,000 to show, $14,000 to win
    Jodie Esquibel: $10,000
    Kyung Ho Kang: $44,000 — $22,000 to show, $22,000 to win
    Brandon Davis: $21,000
    Sabina Mazo: $20,000 — $10,000 to show, $10,000 to win
    Shana Dobson: $12,000

    Surprised that Miocic's flat fee was 50% bigger than Cormier's. Neither were getting a win bonus. Maybe DC was getting more in PPV hits?


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    #112
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    DC is definitely getting a PPV slice.


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    #113
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Mellor wrote: »
    DC is definitely getting a PPV slice.
    Was just gonna say this.
    He is 100% getting a PPV cut, so should make a bit more than the "official" figures


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    #114
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    The Nal wrote: »
    I'd say DC is gutted the Lesnar fight didn't happen. 500k for the fight. Would've earned 3 or 4 times that for a Lesnar fight.

    He'll still earn several times more than than. 500k + ppv points. Himself, Miocic, Diaz and Petis will all make a few million from PPV points.


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    #115
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,954 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    He'll still earn several times more than than. 500k + ppv points. Himself, Miocic, Diaz and Petis will all make a few million from PPV points.

    No they won't make that much, I'm going to guess the buy rate on this won't be much more than 600k. I doubt Stipe and Petitis are getting points, Diaz maybe, Cormier yes.


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    #116
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,584 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Jones should step up. Beats Stipe handily!


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    #117
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    rob316 wrote: »
    No they won't make that much, I'm going to guess the buy rate on this won't be much more than 600k. I doubt Stipe and Petitis are getting points, Diaz maybe, Cormier yes.

    600k still = several million each.
    All 4 of the main and co-main get points.


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    #118
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 17,954 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    600k still = several million each.
    All 4 of the main and co-main get points.

    They are not getting that much, no chance.


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    #119
    Jamiekelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Jamiekelly


    Main and Co-main of PPV cards always get points on the PPV. The agents they have negotiating their contracts would make that priority number one if they had any brain cells at all. The amount of % of the PPV is definitely variable depending on drawing power though. Diaz, for example, would almost certainly be getting more PPV % points than Stipe and Pettis.

    Anything over 500k buys means most would walk away with a few million at least.


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    #120
    xtal191
    Registered Users Posts: 6,308 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Hasn't the ESPN deal completely changed how PPV points work now?

    I could've sworn I read about fighters getting way less money from PPV since the ESPN deal


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    #121
    cletus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,866 ✭✭✭cletus


    You are vastly overestimating how much is made on ppv points. Below is a report on this very topic, giving a breakdown of how much at each step a fighter gets.

    Essentially, a 600,000 buy card would net $750,000 in ppv points.

    Also, other info released as part of the antitrust lawsuit suggest normally only the Champion is on ppv points, not just main carders, and almost definitely not co-main, unless it's also a championship fight.

    Note, the UFC do not stick rigidly to the outline below, but in general it's how it works

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/8/8/20754613/ufc-lawsuit-docs-ppv-paydays-for-conor-mcgregor-ronda-rousey-jon-jones-and-brock-lesnar-mma-news


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