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The Offseason 2019

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  • #62
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,694 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Derrick Rose to the Pistons for 2 years/$15 million.

    Really expected him to get a little more after his decent showing last year.


  • #63
    2smiggy
    Registered Users Posts: 19,909 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Derrick Rose to the Pistons for 2 years/$15 million.

    Really expected him to get a little more after his decent showing last year.

    i'd have thought he would be worth more, I suppose the history of injuries are a factor


  • #64
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Hitch2222 wrote: »
    What's the idea of the Russell trade a year from now though.
    Steph, Klay & Russell all to start together?

    I wonder given Russell is off the board now, does that mean that the Lakers fancy their chances at Kawhi.

    Horford, Harris & Josh Richardson is a better combo than Harris & Butler. Pity about JJ but that's a decent return.

    I think the Warriors needed to make that move in order to make the playoffs next year and I think Russel is on an upward trajectory so if they should get good value if they decide to trade him down the road.
    It really sucks to see Iggy go but the Warriors needed to re tool, they looked a bit old and tired in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Livingston go also

    The KD thing is a peculiar one, I get why a team wouldn’t want to take the risk on him but you can also see the massive upside of having him on your team. It’s just that the Nets really haven’t got better, even Kyrie is a bit of a risk in my opinion, he was a disaster last year, obviously this will be a different scenario but the I could see all this blow up in their face. Jordan is also being thrown in their as if it’s a big 3 but I think he is well past his sell by date.
    I don’t think the Knicks passed on KD, more like he passed on that **** show.

    Philly should be a legit contender next year


  • #65
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Aren't we all just waiting to see if Kawhi heads to the Lakers or not?

    If he doesn't, then we have at least half a dozen genuine contenders next season.

    If he does then we have another superteam and the Lakers will just be akin to Mercedes in F1.

    Kawhi staying at Toronto would mean a lot for the league.


  • #66
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,694 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    "Kawhi has been dealt to the Lakers!"

    (6 hours later)

    "The Kawhi trade has been vetoed for basketball reasons".

    ;)


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  • #67
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Also, iggy released a new book last week and had a few bad things to say about the Warriors apparently, how they misdiagnosed one of his injuries or something along those lines. Wouldn’t be surprised he got chopped after that knowing how cut throat the NBA can be.
    I think KD is choosing a lower quality team for various reasons we may never know, playing with friends, new York market, new challenge, fued with Draymond, who knows, doesn’t make basketball sense to me


  • #68
    Angliru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Angliru


    If I had to guess Iggy knew he was gone before he said that stuff.


  • #69
    Hitch2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Hitch2222


    Blazers going all in anyway. They picked up Whiteside only earns 27m, touted as a defensive monster but team better defensively when he sits


  • #70
    Angliru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Angliru


    Kanter to the Celtics. 10m, 2 years. Great deal.


  • #71
    Hitch2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Hitch2222


    Poor Butters gonna have an aneurysm when he sees the 14m per year that the Rockets are giving Rivers for the next 2 years.

    Mavs pick up Seth too. Lakers need Kawhi, this FA class is getting thin.


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  • #72
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 36,087 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Hitch2222 wrote: »
    Blazers going all in anyway. They picked up Whiteside only earns 27m, touted as a defensive monster but team better defensively when he sits

    His individual defensive metrics *are* massive. Highest defensive rating per 100 possessions in the league last year, and a DPBM of 3.0.

    Definitely overpaid and definitely hasn’t lived up to his potential.


  • #73
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Warriors retiring Durant’s jersey, I get it but jeez seems a bit ott. I would have equal if not more admiration for what Iggy did here, doesn’t really matter I know but a little weird


  • #74
    Hitch2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Hitch2222


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    Warriors retiring Durant’s jersey, I get it but jeez seems a bit ott. I would have equal if not more admiration for what Iggy did here, doesn’t really matter I know but a little weird

    GTFO retiring his jersey, come on, I'm all for progress in all facets of the game but that's ridiculous stuff.
    3 seasons with a franchise and his jersey is retired.

    It's all smoke and mirrors stuff but I mean even as a player would you not be a little embarrassed taking that.


  • #75
    Angliru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Angliru


    Meh Kawhi is almost certainly getting a jersey retirement from Toronto even if he leaves for the Lakers now. Granted Kawhi was a complete game changer and it was such an iconic season for the franchise but I still think Durant deserves it tbh. 3 years, 3 finals, 2 titles and 2 Finals MVPs. Pretty sick tbh.


  • #76
    Hitch2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Hitch2222


    Angliru wrote: »
    Meh Kawhi is almost certainly getting a jersey retirement from Toronto even if he leaves for the Lakers now. Granted Kawhi was a complete game changer and it was such an iconic season for the franchise but I still think Durant deserves it tbh. 3 years, 3 finals, 2 titles and 2 Finals MVPs. Pretty sick tbh.

    That's fine but Nick Collison got his retired by OKC. Jersey retirement imo is more about servitude than substance in many ways.
    Udonis Haslem may get his retired by the Heat for example.
    I just think jersey retirement is more about longevity, ethos, community those more intangibles than skills. Obviously that's great too but 3 years just doesn't seem requisite, I suspect it's the shortest period of time bar maybe some time of ceremonial thing for any player to have his jersey retired.


  • #77
    Blinky Plebum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Blinky Plebum


    Jersey retirements in American sports are a load of nonsense and so common that the supposedly great gesture isn't all that great a gesture so people shouldn't read anything into anymore it's a complete load of nonsense at this stage.

    Inter Milan retired Javier Zanetti and Giacinto Fachetti's jerseys, AC Milan retired Paolo Maldini and Franco Baresi's jerseys. Realistically retiring a jersey should be a massive honour and if your going to do it in any sport you should have the status at a team like the 4 players I've just mentioned.

    The currency of retiring jerseys in American sports has been completely devalued over the years.


  • #78
    leggo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Curry is the only one of this Warriors dynasty who should be a cert for that, if it’s going to mean anything. I’d put Klay and Draymond ahead of Durant FFS, they’d all won a ring for them before he even got there!

    I dunno...I might feel differently if I was a fan because the Warriors’ dominance could wash over you at times during their run, but it seems to me Durant only kinda muddied things. They had their Toronto-style Finals win and beat the regular season win record without him. He helped make them unstoppable in the playoffs, sure, but they also lacked a real true match and his move alone contributed towards that by creating an imbalance within the league. And his presence also left them top heavy where they’d once been well-rounded and even able to cope with Curry’s injuries, which when he went down hurt led to their ultimate downfall. It’s a super weird thing for them to do the more you think about it tbh.


  • #79
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,694 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    *FALSE ALARM*


  • #80
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    It was all over the news here in the bay, I’ve just read the quote from Lacob
    “As long as iam co-chairman of this team, no player will wear the no 35 for the Warriors again”
    Not exactly saying they will be hanging it from the rafters, journalism at its finest.


  • #81
    Osmosis Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    On the Whiteside trade for Portland: he's a case of an overpaid player, not a bad player. What he's getting paid doesn't matter for Portland anyway because they traded matching salaries in Harkless and Leonard back to Miami, and all 3 are on expiring contracts regardless. Harkless is a bit of a loss but they've retained Hood and brought in Bazemore so the SF spot should be safe, Whiteside as a massive upgrade over Meyers Leonard and allows them to not rush Nurkic back from his broken leg.


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  • #82
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Hitch2222 wrote: »
    Poor Butters gonna have an aneurysm when he sees the 14m per year that the Rockets are giving Rivers for the next 2 years.

    Mavs pick up Seth too. Lakers need Kawhi, this FA class is getting thin.

    Not at all, it’s their money and they can do what they want with it - a waste IMO but I don’t like Houston so fire away! Only way I’d react to that is if Boston paid for him.....and while an overpay at least it’s not the crazy money he’s been on for the last few years.


  • #83
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    What were Dallas doing re the Butler trade? Must be something going on somewhere - from not taking Dragic for free (when he’s buds with Luca), to what appears to be just acting the maggot with a view to scuppering the trade? Something’s up.


  • #84
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Thought it was that Miami were never offering Dragic to Dallas in the first place?


  • #85
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    kmart6 wrote: »
    Thought it was that Miami were never offering Dragic to Dallas in the first place?

    First report was they offered Dragic, then that changed to Olynk and Jones Jr, now nothing. I like Dragic btw, a lot. Could do a very decent job for someone.....


  • #86
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Klay Thompson posted a clip from Wolf of Wall Street, “Iam not leaving” Warrior for life, it would be phenomenal if he retired here


  • #87
    Osmosis Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    I'm so confused by Jimmy Butler btw, forces his way out of Minnesota to join a contender, gets offered the max by that contender and decides to leave for a team in an even worse position than Minnesota.


  • #88
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 36,087 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Osmosis Jones wrote: »
    I'm so confused by Jimmy Butler btw, forces his way out of Minnesota to join a contender, gets offered the max by that contender and decides to leave for a team in an even worse position than Minnesota.

    Gets to be the man and live in South Beach
    Jimmy says he’s about dat ring, his actions say different


  • #89
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Gets to be the man and live in South Beach
    Jimmy says he’s about dat ring, his actions say different

    Yep, South beach is party central, not to jump to any conclusions but if he likes to party and hang out with beautiful women then he is home


  • #90
    Hitch2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Hitch2222


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    Klay Thompson posted a clip from Wolf of Wall Street, “Iam not leaving” Warrior for life, it would be phenomenal if he retired here

    It would be cool for him and Steph to stay but if Klay comes back to 100% which it seems reasonably possible with an ACL, I feel like there's a little bit of disappointment if he never moves to see how good he would be as a teams No1


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  • #91
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    Yep, South beach is party central, not to jump to any conclusions but if he likes to party and hang out with beautiful women then he is home

    Joe House came out with a laugh out loud comment on the Simmons Pod re. Jimmy’s reasons for wanting to be in South Beach. It involves alliteration with the letter P and relates to the above in bold.:pac:

    Also on Pods, Woj sounded absolutely shattered on his. At times he was struggling to find his train of thought and just rambling. Prob. put in some crazy hour’s last week. Ryen Rusillo was his guest, but he was in serious mode - not the jokey guy you get on his own or when he’s with Simmons. I like his analysis either way, but prefer the funnier version.


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