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Italexit. Proposals for new Italian currency gaining traction

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  • #92
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    Claiming that being able to devalue a currency can solve economic problems in todays world is just BS.

    I did not say that, I said that what changed is that they don't have the ability to do it. Strenght of Euro at the moment doesn't help Italian economy which is not growing at the rate needed or even at all.

    I'm not saying Italy should leave euro but the fact is they are muddling through for decades and some day they will get in trouble unless something changes. And lower retirement age and similar nonsense is not it.


  • #93
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,258 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    And Italy has a new government (again); M5S and social democrats (PD) with Giuseppe Conte continuing as PM. Long live the new government and may it get beyond the 1 year mark for a change.


  • #94
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Won't last long. Conte is just an EU servant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Eh8Mc5RAE

    All roads lead to Rome.



  • #95
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Won't last long. Conte is just an EU servant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Eh8Mc5RAE
    That's how Italian governments roll anyway.


  • #96
    kksaints
    Registered Users Posts: 4,684 ✭✭✭kksaints


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Won't last long. Conte is just an EU servant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Eh8Mc5RAE

    Probably won't although interestingly Trump of all people called Conte a highly respected prime minister,


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  • #97
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    kksaints wrote: »
    Probably won't although interestingly Trump of all people called Conte a highly respected prime minister,
    Not sure he knows who he was talking about and could happily have rolled back on it!


  • #98
    kksaints
    Registered Users Posts: 4,684 ✭✭✭kksaints


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not sure he knows who he was talking about and could happily have rolled back on it!

    Yeah I was wondering did he think Salvini was PM and got mixed up but in any case it was an unusual intervention. Thankully, it seems Salvini's plots seemed to have backfired.


  • #99
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Won't last long. Conte is just an EU servant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Eh8Mc5RAE

    How does he "serve" the EU?

    Given that Italy IS THE EU, I guess that that's what you mean?


  • #100
    Calina
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Won't last long. Conte is just an EU servant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Eh8Mc5RAE

    In the Italian context, what qualifies as long? The average is like, 13 months. Conte pulled off something they cannot manage in the UK, which is opposition swalliwing their differences and operating to the benefit of the country.

    Salvini otoh gambled and lost. There will be elections again in the next year or two and we will see what happens then. But your worldview might improve if you dumped the anti-EU lens that distorts it.


  • #101
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I think that too many people find La Liga unpalatable. I'm not going to call them fascist because that's an expression used too much but unlike Germans Italians and Austrians never properly dealt with their ww2 history. Elements in La Liga and Freedom Party (Austria) have a bit too romantic view of their past.

    I think there are a lot of politicians and people in Italy who don't want party that evokes memories of less than glorious past to rule the country. They dislike that more than each other.


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  • #102
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 12,984 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I think that too many people find La Liga unpalatable. I'm not going to call them fascist because that's an expression used too much but unlike Germans Italians and Austrians never properly dealt with their ww2 history. Elements in La Liga and Freedom Party (Austria) have a bit too romantic view of their past.
    It used to be called Lega Nord. In fact it's still their official name. Their original stance was that the north of Italy should be separate from the south and often referred to the south as 'Africa' and the people who lived there 'subhuman'. Mad that they then stood candidates in the south and got them elected. After whitewashing their name with a very watery whitewash.


  • #103
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I had brain fart naming them. Beginning of football season probably didn't help. :D

    There is Slovenian minority in Italy around Trieste and they were often preoccupied with opposing Slovenian schools and theatre. Because apparently a nation of 2 million (including minorities and expats) is threatening to Italy. It's mostly complete nonsense that they would involve themselves in but because Berlusconi needed someone to prop him up they had more influence than their policies would deserve.


  • #104
    McGiver
    Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭McGiver


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    brickster69 wrote: »
    Won't last long. Conte is just an EU servant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Eh8Mc5RAE

    How does he "serve" the EU?

    Given that Italy IS THE EU, I guess that that's what you mean?
    Exactly, it's like saying that a governor of Alabama is a US servant. And attributing to it a pejorative meaning.

    Italy is a founding and integral member of the EU. Italy is the EU. And EU is Italy.


  • #105
    micosoft
    Registered Users Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭micosoft


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    It used to be called Lega Nord. In fact it's still their official name. Their original stance was that the north of Italy should be separate from the south and often referred to the south as 'Africa' and the people who lived there 'subhuman'. Mad that they then stood candidates in the south and got them elected. After whitewashing their name with a very watery whitewash.

    And you have just described how easy it is to get people to vote against their own interests! Rather astonishing that... but happens in the UK and US every day.


  • #106
    Scoondal
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Salvini got egg on his face for his arrogance.
    Under Salvini, all Italian emmigrants should go back to Italy.


  • #107
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 36,082 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/10/16/italys-salvini-throws-towel-euroscepticism-following-lead-frances/

    When journalists who have been making a living stoking euroskepticism report on the dampening of such sentiment you can take it to the bank.

    Salvini is happy with the euro, case closed.


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