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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion Spring/Summer 2018

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  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭glossy


    Blanchardstown as well ðŸ˜! I want more


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    I wonder is there a squall line starting to form just off waterford https://en.sat24.com/en/gb


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    2 flashes and rumbles d15. Very close.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭lolie


    Some real nice convection way of in the distance to my northeast.
    Looks similar to when i seen the funnel cloud two weeks ago so might be worth keeping an eye out.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Very low amount of sferics recorded Fri /Sat, I thought there would have been more, not enough moisture in the atmosphere and lacking shear I guess, very low Relative humidity here in Kerry the last two days getting down to 61%.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Tornado captured today near Lobberich, close to Dusseldorf in Germany .


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    https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/996824052286271488

    ( Getting up close and personal, a bit of understandable bad language used by the driver ! )

    https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/996827716765847553

    https://twitter.com/EUStormMap/status/996822396987412480


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Well the uk have a few thunderstorm risks advised How's it looking for us this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,115 ✭✭✭pad199207


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Well the uk have a few thunderstorm risks advised How's it looking for us this week.

    Perhaps a few welsh imports into the east end of the week. However SST's are really against us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,115 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Had decent hopes for this weekend to see some possible storms. But as usual may just be looking on with the UK having all the fun.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ECM not as good looking as earlier alright Pad but still a fair chance of storms perhaps. The ECM went off the boil all together but is coming back again.

    ARPEGE showing potential for Sunday.

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    GFS decent .

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    Netweathers NMM12 looks enormous still, not a bad model usually quite accurate.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Netweather NMM12

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    Fairly high PWAT readings so big heavy showers. We will see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Wouldn't go beyond +48hrs when looking at convective weather forecast in Ireland. Each day's convective potential depends so much on the previous day's remenants. Especially when theres high pressure around.

    Looking into tomorrows potential.

    Some good heating in the boundary layer with temps/DPs in the high/low teens respecitively leading to several hundred cape (j/kg) in places.
    Risk area - Just west of the spine of the country. ( weirdest area name I know but it works :rolleyes: )

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    Low Deep layer shear will mean storms will be of the pulse type ( short lived) , so short heavy downpours with some lightning.
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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Plume of warm moist air moving across from the UK tomorrow into rising temperatures in the afternoon,Cloud bubbling up producing showers with some looking heavy, will be interesting to see if some become electrified.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/forecast.php?date=2018-05-24

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    Day 2 Convective Outlook
    VALID 06:00 UTC Thu 24 May 2018 - 05:59 UTC Fri 25 May 2018

    ISSUED 20:59 UTC Wed 23 May 2018

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    Several episodes of thunderstorms are possible during this forecast period - in general, for England / Wales the risk of lightning is mainly across the southern half of the SLGT during Thursday daytime, the focus then shifting to the northern half of the SLGT on Thursday night / early Friday. Main focus for Northern Ireland / Republic of Ireland will be Thursday afternoon and early evening.

    ... THURSDAY DAYTIME: ENGLAND / WALES ...
    Elevated convection will likely be ongoing at the start of this forecast period, associated with destabilisation of relatively high WBPT plume, over southern England / south Midlands, moving westwards into S Wales and parts of SW England. Some sporadic lightning continues to be possible with this activity, although instability reduces as storms continue to drift to the west, so probably with a weakening trend as they move into Wales / SW England.

    By the afternoon, there is fairly good model agreement for any thunderstorm potential to become primarily focussed along the moisture plume, in a SE-NW corridor from Cen S England to S Wales. By this point, rain will be evolving into a messy mix of dynamic and embedded convection elements, though should any thunderstorms develop along this zone then they will quite likely be elevated - however, there is scope for some to become rooted in the boundary layer if enough surface heating can occur, either along or to the north of this frontal boundary. Some high-resolution model guidance suggests the potential for a couple of surface-based thunderstorms during the second half of the afternoon near or just north of the M4, drifting west into E / SE Wales towards evening. This area therefore has the potential to be upgraded to MDT; should thunderstorms develop here lightning could be quite frequent, accompanied by hail and gusty winds.

    Main threats will be surface water flooding from prolonged heavy rain running over similar areas, particularly Cen S England and along the M4 corridor into the SW Midlands. Depending on developments, the SLGT may also need extending into parts of Devon and Cornwall.

    ... THURSDAY DAYTIME: NORTHERN IRELAND / REPUBLIC OF IRELAND ...
    Remnants of mid-level convection / instability (from Wales) will drift westwards into southern and eastern Ireland on Thursday morning - this airmass then destabilising further in response to surface heating, yielding 500-900 J/kg CAPE. Low-level convergence will aid in the development of a few scattered surface-based showers and thunderstorms along a N-S line, starting on the eastern side of the SLGT mid-afternoon and drifting slowly to the west into the early evening, before decaying as nocturnal cooling of the boundary layer commences.

    Shear is not particularly strong, and so most showers/storms will tend to be of the pulse variety, an individual cell lasting less than an hour etc. This is also somewhat dependent on how much cloud will spill from the east, reducing surface heating. An isolated heavy shower / thunderstorm is also possible in western Northern Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,097 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Fairly sudden development of a very heavy shower over Athenry by the looks of the radar. No strikes though.

    Looks like alot of convective activity kicking off on a line West of East Co.Limerick


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,131 ✭✭✭✭km79


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Fairly sudden development of a very heavy shower over Athenry by the looks of the radar. No strikes though.

    Looks like alot of convective activity kicking off on a line West of East Co.Limerick

    Was not as bad as it looked on radar in athenry


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Can see where the wind converges , this should be the area of interest for thunderstorms me thinks. Can see big clouds forming inland from here outside Tralee.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Line of high cloud tops east of Castlebar now running in a line roughly from claremorris up towards sligo


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Thats them :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31,815 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Pouring down in tuam now. It's got that smell!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Looks like a bust, nada !

    Rain seems to be dying out.

    Oh well, onwards and upwards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,115 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Looks like a bust, nada !

    Rain seems to be dying out.

    Oh well, onwards and upwards.

    Yeah and Jean didnt mention the word 'thunder' not once for this coming weekend. Just scattered showers.:(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Yeah and Jean didnt mention the word 'thunder' not once for this coming weekend. Just scattered showers.:(

    :(

    Sunday not looking bad all the same :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Looks like a bust, nada !

    Seems to be a recurring theme this past year, I know thunderstorms are scarce here at the best of times but its been a fairly pathetic year for storms. I can't recall a single day all Spring so far that's had more than a handful of sferics either.

    Here's hoping for something like this over the summer to make up for it :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8cMSyzFoLs


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,097 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Met Eireann are certainly expecting an interesting evening tomorrow.
    Status Yellow - Rainfall warning for Wexford, Cork and Waterford
    Heavy thundery downpours are expected at times Saturday evening/overnight with local falls of 25 to 35mm possible.

    Issued: Friday 25 May 2018 13:00

    Valid from Saturday 26 May 2018 21:00 to Sunday 27 May 2018 06:00


  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭CirrusBusiness


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Met Eireann are certainly expecting an interesting evening tomorrow.

    Kilkenny and Carlow in the firing line too looking at lightning potential on Meteox for Sunday morning. Been a while since we've seen anything significant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,115 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Kilkenny added to the warning. To be honest most of Leinster and Munster look to be highest risk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    How are we looking in Cork City? Or should I head down to my summer home near Clonakilty for a better experience? :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Family wedding in Drogheda Sunday afternoon, what do we think the rain / thunder risk will be?


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