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Has the ufc diluted their content?

  • 14-08-2019 10:10am
    #1
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭


    with cards nearly every weekend do you think the ufc has diluted the quality of the cards?

    the last two havent been great and even the 240 card wasnt mind blowing.

    saturdays card is the best we have gotten in a while.

    Is there too many UFC events? 41 votes

    Too many
    75% 31 votes
    Perfect amount
    21% 9 votes
    Not enough
    2% 1 vote


Comments

  • #2
    mirwillbeback
    Registered Users Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭mirwillbeback


    While the sport has grown and the skills of the fighters and production values have developed immeasurably, I actually look back favourably to the time of around UFC 40 - 60.

    The event would be announced about 3 months out, with fights announced gradually, normally in about 1-2 week intervals, and full card known about 6 weeks in advance.

    The excitement of waiting for fights then was far more than these days, where the volume of events has become so frequent. I consider myself a huge UFC fan, but even I get caught surprised sometimes that an event is on (such as the ESPN events)

    "Nostalgia is not what is used to be" is a well phrased saying, but I honestly enjoyed the events more back in the day - just my personal opinion.


  • #3
    callaway92
    Registered Users Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Problems to do with your original post

    Nostalgia - It's easy to look back on cards in the past and say they're all brill, but many of the Fight Night cards in the past and the PPVs were poor. It's only now that fighters have had their careers we can look at the cards and go 'wow'.

    But I do agree there's too many cards on to keep up with.


  • #4
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I voted yes but I'm actually not too sure if that is the entire problem.. something is definitely wrong though. Too many divisions maybe? I find it hard to bother about any of the 'new' ones outside of the top 4/5 fighters.

    I think for me personally the homogenisation of the fighters hasn't helped either, in the sense that years ago people tended to be more specialised in a certain area, and that tended to automatically impart a certain personality and reason to be interested in someone. Nowadays every is good at everything and they need to use their actual personalities to promote fights.. which works for just a handful of guys.


  • #5
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    The Reebok deal hasn't helped with that either.

    When everyone looks the same, and fights the same.


  • #6
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Yeah the all-rounder aspect has changed things up. Used to enjoy seeing someone rightly ****ting themselves about take-downs because it'd be fight over or standing grappling/clinching but avoiding going to ground. It's all a bit same-y now.


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  • #7
    tommyboy26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭tommyboy26


    i think a major problem for me is all the super fights and champ champ sh1t. lads are winning a belt and automatically moving up to fight for another belt. case in point henry cejudo( i know he defended against tj but it was still a super fight)

    you should have to clean out your division then fight a for a second belt and if you win second belt you should vacate you first belt


  • #8
    Eoinbmw
    Registered Users Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    There is a serious lack of interesting characters in UFC these days!
    Rampage,ortiz,liddel etc ya they would probably get smoked today it was all just more engaging to watch!


  • #9
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,002 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    the last two havent been great and even the 240 card wasnt mind blowing.
    .

    Did you want last weekends card, or are you just basing it on paper?
    Wasn't year on paper, but was great to watch imo.
    tommyboy26 wrote: »
    i think a major problem for me is all the super fights and champ champ sh1t. lads are winning a belt and automatically moving up to fight for another belt. case in point henry cejudo( i know he defended against tj but it was still a super fight)
    How many UFC fights are there per year? How many are "champ champ sh1t"?
    The quality of the fighters are better than ever, which sadly means less one sided beated downs for the just bleeders


  • #10
    xckjoo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Mellor wrote: »
    The quality of the fighters are better than ever, which sadly means less one sided beated downs for the just bleeders
    I think this is big part of it. It's not the wild west anymore where anything can happen :pac:
    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    The Reebok deal hasn't helped with that either.

    When everyone looks the same, and fights the same.
    Sure they all looked the same in the old days with their Tap-Out gear and "Condom Depot" plastered across their arse :D.


  • #11
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users Posts: 12,187 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    callaway92 wrote: »
    many of the Fight Night cards in the past and the PPVs were poor. It's only now that fighters have had their careers we can look at the cards and go 'wow'.

    UFC 95 in London being the usual example. One of the most widely and vocally criticised cards ever, iirc the UFC (allegedly) leaked rumours in the run up to ticket release that Chuck would be on the card. Tickets sold like hotcakes, the event was headlined by Joe Stevenson and Diego Sanchez...

    Nevertheless it turned out on the night to be one of the best events I've ever been to, and looking back who would complain about a card including:
    Dan Hardy
    Nate Marquardt
    Demian Maia
    Chael Sonnen
    Junior dos Santos
    Stefan Struve

    Don't get me wrong, the UFC were taking the absolute pi$s with the card they put out, but you never know when you're watching the next Jon Jones.


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  • #12
    creeper1
    Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭creeper1


    There are many generalists but also some specialists around.

    Ben askren is a wrestler and automatically went for a takedown which was countered by an a knee to his head.

    Damien Miai is a ground specialist that wasn't able to take down Tyron Woodley a good wrestler.

    I do agree too many generalists make for a somewhat less interesting era


  • #13
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Fighters become better mixed martial artists, people complain that they're too good now...


  • #14
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Fighters become better mixed martial artists, people complain that they're too good now...

    But they're not too good, most of them are just average (by today's standard) at everything that's the problem


  • #15
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,933 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    riffmongous wrote: »
    But they're not too good, most of them are just average (by today's standard) at everything that's the problem

    I'd hardly call them average, they just have a wider skillset than the guys from 20 years ago. They're embracing the mixed part of mixed martial arts.


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