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Non-Official, Offline Motorway Services in Ireland

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  • #692
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    https://www.laoistoday.ie/2020/06/10/new-supermacs-plaza-outside-portlaoise-set-to-open-at-end-of-july/

    Supermacs MSA at Junction 17 on M7 opening in time for August bank holiday weekend. This means two MSAs will be available on the same junction as Applegreen Midway also are off that junction. Supermacs really monopolizing the food offering along the M7 with Monegall, Monasterevin and now Portlaoise.


  • #693
    flazio
    Registered Users Posts: 12,799 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    With Applegreen in Birdhill and Portlaoise as well.
    I think the M7 has reached saturation at this point.
    Time for the MSA builders online and offline to start building along the M3 and the M17/18


  • #694
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    What is the status of all of the offline (and online, maybe) service stations at the moment? Are they open at all?


  • #695
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭harr


    ongarboy wrote: »
    https://www.laoistoday.ie/2020/06/10/new-supermacs-plaza-outside-portlaoise-set-to-open-at-end-of-july/

    Supermacs MSA at Junction 17 on M7 opening in time for August bank holiday weekend. This means two MSAs will be available on the same junction as Applegreen Midway also are off that junction. Supermacs really monopolizing the food offering along the M7 with Monegall, Monasterevin and now Portlaoise.

    Surely this will hit J14 in monasterevin, they have a supermacs but it a franchise not owed by McDonough. Having a bigger plaza just 15 minutes away means more than likely people will stop at Portlaoise now instead of J14 .
    I always taught junction 14 was a little close to Dublin to be of real benefit even though it does be packed and they have recently doubled its size with a complete new fit out..


  • #696
    NedNew2
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭NedNew2


    harr wrote: »
    Surely this will hit J14 in monasterevin, they have a supermacs but it a franchise not owed by McDonough. Having a bigger plaza just 15 minutes away means more than likely people will stop at Portlaoise now instead of J14 .
    I always taught junction 14 was a little close to Dublin to be of real benefit even though it does be packed and they have recently doubled its size with a complete new fit out..

    True, J14 services were way too small. Is the new extension open yet? Even after the extension it'll still be a modest size.

    But it's always busy.


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  • #697
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭harr


    NedNew2 wrote: »
    True, J14 services were way too small. Is the new extension open yet? Even after the extension it'll still be a modest size.

    But it's always busy.

    Part of the upgrade is open and the larger carpark is open but I still don’t think it’s as big as the new plaza. Haven’t been in j14 since lockdown started so unsure what stage is finished. With so many food options now at Portlaoise I really can’t see why monasterevin would be people’s first choice.
    Applegreen recently refused planning in monasterevin as well which definitely would have saturated the M7 with services


  • #698
    Kevtherev1
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Kevtherev1


    Confirmation the Portlaoise Plaza at M7 Junction 17 is now open for business. As per their facebook page they have posted some pictures.


    https://www.facebook.com/pg/ThePortlaoisePlaza/photos/?tab=album&album_id=114343753696455&ref=page_internal


  • #699
    flazio
    Registered Users Posts: 12,799 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I'd love to know who's Pat Mcdonaghs contractor. They work at some pace.
    Usually MSAs fuel prices are slightly higher than places away from the motorway but going into very direct competition with Applegreen and their Midway plaza could set up some interesting competition.


  • #700
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    flazio wrote: »
    I'd love to know who's Pat Mcdonaghs contractor. They work at some pace.
    Usually MSAs fuel prices are slightly higher than places away from the motorway but going into very direct competition with Applegreen and their Midway plaza could set up some interesting competition.

    I think it was Killeen - they do quite a few major stations.

    Greenfield site, overlooking a motorway, the perfect building site for any contractor

    Edit, yep, it was Killeen https://www.killeencivilengineering.ie/projects/


  • #701
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,385 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Darc19 wrote: »
    I think it was Killeen - they do quite a few major stations.

    Greenfield site, overlooking a motorway, the perfect building site for any contractor

    Was Killeen’s- handy job across road for them! Sign up outside it


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  • #702
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,385 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Thinking of services- is there anything else planned on the M9- northern half is more than covered from Paulstown on but something at Kilkenny around the N10 or between Waterford and Kilkenny is lacking and think could do well as there’s a dearth of even offline stations too bar one in Knocktopher?


  • #703
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    road_high wrote: »
    Thinking of services- is there anything else planned on the M9- northern half is more than covered from Paulstown on but something at Kilkenny around the N10 or between Waterford and Kilkenny is lacking and think could do well as there’s a dearth of even offline stations too bar one in Knocktopher?

    Mullinavat services. Meant to be Applegreen

    Don't think work has started yet


  • #704
    Kevtherev1
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Kevtherev1


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Mullinavat services. Meant to be Applegreen

    Don't think work has started yet


    It is two years now since we last heard any update as regards Mullinavat
    M9 J11 motorway services. Somebody should email TD John McGuinness to find out if he heard any news.


    https://beat102103.com/news/new-m9-service-station-development-set-for-county-kilkenny/


  • #705
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭harr


    Was J14 earlier today and was very impressed huge range of grub now and totally revamped it looks like they doubled the space.
    The Portlaoise plaza must be in direct competition with J14 now , about 10-15 minute drive between both .


  • #706
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Mod: Do not defame public figures who are not on this forum, and so cannot defend them selves.

    READ THE CHARTER. Any more and cards will be issued.

    Posts deleted.


  • #707
    sweet_trip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭sweet_trip


    I find Circle K's do the best food selections.

    I do like the Cashel circle K on the M8 and the Tullow circle K on the m9.



    My only problem with circle K is they're way too small on the inside.
    Even pre-covid they would be packed to the hilt.


    Paulstown applegreen is a fine size but the food selection is pretty mediocre.



    The Mullinavat one should do quite well when if it ever opens as there's nothing between Paulstown and Waterford. Aside from the centra in Knocktopher which is a miserable place all together.



    Another route that badly needs somewhere good to stop is the Limerick to Waterford road.
    The only places you have are the dingy applegreen in clonmel, the applegreen in carrick, and that dump of a circle K in tipp town.


  • #708
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Cashel MSA on the M8 must be chocker with the local lockdowns affecting all the MSAs north of there.

    Very inconvenient location for the Enfield MSAs on the M4 also. The site boundary for the eastbound services is the Kildare/Meath border.


  • #709
    cargo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭cargo


    marno21 wrote: »
    Cashel MSA on the M8 must be chocker with the local lockdowns affecting all the MSAs north of there.

    Very inconvenient location for the Enfield MSAs on the M4 also. The site boundary for the eastbound services is the Kildare/Meath border.

    I don't think the MSA's are affected in the local lockdown. I was in the one just south of the M8/9 split on the M9 at Kilcullen on Saturday morning and there was no sign of any further restrictions. Very quiet though.


  • #710
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    IMO they should be restricted. A lot of people from different counties mixed together with ample high touch surfaces and the possibility for 15+ minutes in close proximity.

    Its a tough one though as the M8 is still not well served with services (Official ones anyway, the unofficial ones are still lacking).


  • #711
    [Deleted User]
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    cargo wrote: »
    I don't think the MSA's are affected in the local lockdown. I was in the one just south of the M8/9 split on the M9 at Kilcullen on Saturday morning and there was no sign of any further restrictions. Very quiet though.

    They should be. Not that anyone would take any notice anyway. Regulations are for everyone else.


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  • #712
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭harr


    Guards were at top of slip road at junction 14 yesterday and today checking cars and even found 7 puppies from a puppy farm in a Range Rover because it pulled into the services , so the guards are around. Also stopping cars from entering kildare village the last couple of days .
    Kildare village shopping centre was virtually empty all day and J14 was very very quiet compared to a regular Sunday.


  • #713
    cargo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭cargo


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    IMO they should be restricted. A lot of people from different counties mixed together with ample high touch surfaces and the possibility for 15+ minutes in close proximity.

    Its a tough one though as the M8 is still not well served with services (Official ones anyway, the unofficial ones are still lacking).

    Well I don't think the food court was open just serving fuel so in and out. Not sure about toilets etc..


  • #714
    [Deleted User]
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    Obama Plaza was absolutely rammed on Saturday.


  • #715
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,589 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Just leaving a new place call Park Ri just off the N52 @ kells beside aldi. Good selection there coffee, supermacs, delis , carvery, noodles etc . Be handy for anyone doing the N52 run as there is not many good spots for food along the way


  • #716
    BelfastVanMan
    Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    roadmaster wrote: »
    Just leaving a new place call Park Ri just off the N52 @ kells beside aldi. Good selection there coffee, supermacs, delis , carvery, noodles etc . Be handy for anyone doing the N52 run as there is not many good spots for food along the way

    Good to know, thanks.


  • #717
    Kevtherev1
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Kevtherev1


    McDonagh is back again, just seen recent article. Supermacs have just lodged a 4th Application attempt for a Small Plaza Off M18 Junction 12 Ennis MSA Plaza.


    Badly needed and suppose it will be a few months again before a decision on it. Article link from the clare champion.


    https://clarechampion.ie/supermacs-serve-up-fourth-application-for-obama-style-plaza-in-clare/


  • #718
    flazio
    Registered Users Posts: 12,799 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    He should go for Gort instead. Plenty of space off that exit and he practically has Galway Co. Co. in his back pocket.


  • #719
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Traffic count sh1t there by comparison plus not far from galway plaza so would be competing with himself a bit


  • #720
    [Deleted User]
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    Kevtherev1 wrote: »
    McDonagh is back again, just seen recent article. Supermacs have just lodged a 4th Application attempt for a Small Plaza Off M18 Junction 12 Ennis MSA Plaza.


    Badly needed and suppose it will be a few months again before a decision on it. Article link from the clare champion.


    https://clarechampion.ie/supermacs-serve-up-fourth-application-for-obama-style-plaza-in-clare/

    I look forward to seeing more of his illegal advertising scattered all over the local area if he gets to build this.


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  • #721
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    https://www.live95fm.ie/news/live95-news/plans-announced-for-major-plaza-outside-limerick-city/

    Another Supermacs plaza, this time on N69 near Shannon Tunnel entrance


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