Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

MFPM wrote: »

At least you recognise the 'other' side are being regressive, that's a step forward.

Intersting too that you're concerned about 'childish bollox, name calling' but you seem perfectly fine with the random threats of violence but then again they're only coming from one side, the 'side' you seem most sympatheitc too.

You forgot to embolden the word just before the words you did. I’m not sympathetic to any side. I’m just calling out the bullsh*t from whatever side is spewing it about the town I’ve lived in all my life. I know what goes on around here.

And the not caring about random threats of violence? In case you don’t remember. The shining boots for the reddened arses was directed at me for calling out a bullsh*t right wing video :rolleyes:
I don’t care if some nobody on the internet threatens to kick my arse. If he really wants to find me he can ask...

It had been reported on social media during the week that a gang from Balbriggan were due to come to Rush this evening and wreak havoc. Guards in riot vans were driving a around Rush earlier. No sign of anything here.

Don't know if it's connected or not and can't link to it (was on a fb page) but there's supposedly a gang of about 15 youths running amok in Swords with golf clubs and crowbars (No mention of where they are from or their ethnicity)

Either way, where are the parents/guardians?

emptyhouse2222 wrote: »

the brittish people in rochdale would beg to differ with you

Please have them post their wonderful experiences with islam and the african people in this thread

TeaBagMania wrote: »

because their religious and cultural values bring little to no positive aspects to the predominantly white countries they are moving to

Why are you so worried about someones culture and religion why don t you just **** off and mind your own business.

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

"We do things here like we do them in our own countries" - so they are not still living in said home countries because...? This is frightening but I've got to go and get more bothered by Baby It's Cold Outside.

Worse is the girl in the 2nd part of the video who tries to make herself "invisible" by changing her clothing, no make up etc.

So 2 questions to our resident "nothing to worry about" types..

1. Is the "culture" and attitudes depicted in the above video something you think has any place in Ireland?

2. Why do you think that it would be any different here?

Or is this just to be dismissed as "fake news" so that these awkward questions can be ignored?

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

OK, seeing as you've provided some actual content here, I'll run through it...




I'll ignore this. Adds nothing



OK, so the basis of your argument is "the Irish went everywhere" is it?

That's true.. but they went to work and fleeing actual starvation and real poverty. They also had no welfare net or liberal backers if they didn't work/contribute.

The world was a very different place then as well where manual labour was a valuable commodity. Not so much anymore, and not in our service/knowledge-driven economy in 2018.

But, what are the benefits from your perspective then? Please do define them as you see it.



You're of course aware that we're in the midst of a housing crisis - not just in terms of available housing in suitable locations, but affordability.

So again, where do you propose to house these people? I'm assuming you're not actually serious about expelling legitimate migrants and residents in favour of these illegals who will be entirely welfare-dependent in at least the short to medium terms?



So you would propose increasing the corporation tax - the one tax our economy vitally depends on to retain those multinationals and FDI - to fund people who have no skills, no means to support themselves, and alongside that you want to give tax breaks to vulture funds (that are already ripping off renters) top house these people at presumably the taxpayer's expense at least twice over?




Everything up to "very easy" I completely agree with. Religion has caused untold damage in this country and we have finally moved away from it in the last 20 years - not entirely, but getting there.

However, the religion many of these people are bringing with them is a very different thing to the RCC. I'm sure you're aware of the problems in the UK, or mainland Europe, or the poor Irish lecturer who was murdered by a former student in France this week because he allegedly insulted the Prophet.

Apples and oranges.

Based on the evidence of your replies, you should stick to posing questions!

I'll ignore this. Adds nothing

If you bothered to pay attention, you'll note I was responding to your fellow traveller 'enricoh' who lifted your questions without due reference to you - the definition of plagiarism.

OK, so the basis of your argument is "the Irish went everywhere" is it?

No, that's your subjective interpretation of what I posted. The point about unskilled economic Irish migrants was an aspect of the point I made, not the basis.

That's true.. but they went to work and fleeing actual starvation and real poverty.

At least you're consistent with the generalisations. Irish people in main have left this country for economic reasons, some at a point in history fled starvation and 'real' poverty - many didn't, they simply wanted a better life, with a job etc. Many incoming migrants are dealing with difficult situations - what's the difference?

They also had no welfare net or liberal backers if they didn't work/contribute.

In some cases perhaps not, they did take jobs off indigenous populations and housing and services etc - you think the Irish didn't put pressure on the NHS? The fact that people didn't have access to SW specifically is hardly an argument against Ireland not providing it, is it? In places like the US, SW is not available in the same way as it is/was in Wetern Europe? If we allowed migrants to access work perhaps there wouldn't be the same reliance on welfare but then of course you and your type would be screesning about jobs.

The world was a very different place then as well where manual labour was a valuable commodity. Not so much anymore, and not in our service/knowledge-driven economy in 2018.

Not sure of the purpose of this point but isn't it interesting given what I've just posted how the world being a different place then to now is OK when it suits your argument?

But, what are the benefits from your perspective then? Please do define them as you see it.

You posed the question - you define what you mean by 'benefits' - I asked you previously and you ignored it.

You're of course aware that we're in the midst of a housing crisis - not just in terms of available housing in suitable locations, but affordability.

No, the housing crisis just passed me by, I wasn't aware! :rolleyes:

You will note I refereed to the crisis which is a failure of housing policy over several decades in particular an over dependence on the private market. You on the other hand had nothing to contribute apart from citing it in an anti migrant hissy fit.

So again, where do you propose to house these people? I'm assuming you're not actually serious about expelling legitimate migrants and residents in favour of these illegals who will be entirely welfare-dependent in at least the short to medium terms?

I asnwered it, try read more closely. I wasn't proposing expelling anyone but if you want to discuss migration and the housing crisis then you should focus on those who are actually exerting pressure on the cost of housing and the cost of rent, you won't because it doesn't fit your narrative - you're simply interested in spouting simplistic nonsense.

So you would propose increasing the corporation tax - the one tax our economy vitally depends on to retain those multinationals and FDI - to fund people who have no skills, no means to support themselves,

Yes of course I would increase CT, only a fool wouldn't. We had vicious, violent austerity for seven years in this country with some of the most vulnerable hit hard and the MNCs were hit for f@ck all. It's amusing how you leap to defend the massive profiteering of the MNCs while attacking in the main vulnerable migrants - how human of you.

and alongside that you want to give tax breaks to vulture funds (that are already ripping off renters) top house these people at presumably the taxpayer's expense at least twice over?

Seriously? Initially I thought you had trouble reading, I'm now doubting your cognitave reasoning. My quote below.....

That would be taxation, perhaps we could stop giving tax breaks to REITs and increase corpo tax - what you think?

However, the religion many of these people are bringing with them is a very different thing to the RCC.

Is it? Most Africans certainly those from Nigeria are from Christian churches.

I'm sure you're aware of the problems in the UK, or mainland Europe, or the poor Irish lecturer who was murdered by a former student in France this week because he allegedly insulted the Prophet.

What problems? One man kills a lecturer and you want to ban migrants? Can I lock you up because you're a man and most rapists are men, seriously grow the f@ck up?

Now if you want to pose questions, fine, but do have the courtesy to reply accurately to the points made and don't infer or make up meaning to suit your 'argument', I've neither the time or the interest to enagage with such disingeniousness.

Omackeral wrote: »

Not to mention they're fellow EU citizens and have every right to be here working and contributing. That seems irrelevant though.

Indeed but of course they are still exerting massive pressure on the cost of housing and rents which of course is the context of the point, do keep up.

I see young Wibbs 'liked' your comment - he's clearly confude on the point being made too, nice you have some company in your confusion thugh! Nice to see also he's not opposed to all 'multiculturalism'...you couldn't make this stuff up