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  • #362
    Vetch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭Vetch


    Deja Boo wrote: »
    I've an odd sort of question... How common was it, or why would a performer list his stage name on a census (also listing his family under the stage surname) when his travel documents listed his proper name ?

    As a joke maybe? Or doesn't want to be 'tracked'?


  • #363
    kildarejohn
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭kildarejohn


    Deja Boo wrote: »
    I've an odd sort of question... How common was it, or why would a performer list his stage name on a census (also listing his family under the stage surname) when his travel documents listed his proper name ?

    When the person was completing the census form he had no expectation that it would be looked at by anyone, except for statistical purposes; indeed, he would have been assured it was confidential. If he was generally known to his neighbours etc by his stage name, and particularly if the census enumerator who called to his door knew him by the stage name, then it would be natural to use that.


  • #364
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Great information, thanks!
    Apparently they lived a rather public life, so ^ that makes sense.


  • #365
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Love reading the stories... https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058052414 :)


  • #366
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Oh god! Someone mentioned the "customs house fire". Hold me back.

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  • #367
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Oh god! Someone mentioned the "customs house fire". Hold me back.

    I no IT wOZ terbell all da rekords got distroyd

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  • #368
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    How likely is it that a man listed as "reputed father" (in an 1800's u.s. 'history of the region' type book) is actually the real father of the child?


  • #369
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Impossible to say without digging. Is there evidence of the man being in the vicinity of the mother at the right time?

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  • #370
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Gotchya - it's confusing with different names and vague references found in the same book. Will do more digging.

    There seems to be evidence of some sort of affiliation with 2 possible "reputed fathers" (him included), in the vicinity.


  • #371
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    In case you haven't come across it before this is a useful site that answers that very question.

    https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com

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  • #372
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    sorry :o ...and thanks Hermy :)


  • #373
    Rmulvany
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Rmulvany


    Quick question as I don't think it merits a full thread.

    Does the basic 23 & Me package "Ancestry + Traits Service" give you a Y-DNA haplogroup?

    I initially tested my DNA on Ancestry and they don't give one, I paid the fee to have this DNA added to my FTDNA account and they charge for the Y-DNA retest.
    I wan't to do the 23&me as I am certain there are useful matches to be found there, but I also want to know my Y-DNA group


  • #374
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    This suggests it does but I don't how detailed.

    https://www.23andme.com/en-eu/compare-dna-tests/

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  • #375
    brownangel
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭brownangel


    Note that matches are not exclusive to the company that does the test - each company shares it's database with some of the other companies (at least that goes for the autosomal tests). I'm not saying that you will get the same matches with different companies, but there is always a large overlap. Yes, if you want to exhaust every possibility it is worth using two different companies. You may also consider Gedmatch if you are okay with the privacy aspect (your data being available for forensic use) and the extra effort involved.


  • #376
    Rmulvany
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Rmulvany


    brownangel wrote: »
    Note that matches are not exclusive to the company that does the test - each company shares it's database with some of the other companies (at least that goes for the autosomal tests). I'm not saying that you will get the same matches with different companies, but there is always a large overlap. Yes, if you want to exhaust every possibility it is worth using two different companies. You may also consider Gedmatch if you are okay with the privacy aspect (your data being available for forensic use) and the extra effort involved.
    Thanks and yes I have an account on GEDmatch. It was GEDmatch that helped me put together a major family puzzle.
    I understand there will be some overlap, take me for example, I am on Ancestry and FTDNA so I am sure there are others who have used more than one company.


  • #377
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    brownangel wrote: »
    Note that matches are not exclusive to the company that does the test - each company shares it's database with some of the other companies (at least that goes for the autosomal tests). I'm not saying that you will get the same matches with different companies, but there is always a large overlap. Yes, if you want to exhaust every possibility it is worth using two different companies. You may also consider Gedmatch if you are okay with the privacy aspect (your data being available for forensic use) and the extra effort involved.

    I don't get any sense that the individual companies are sharing their databases?

    People definitely upload to multiple sites though.

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  • #378
    JDERIC2017
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭JDERIC2017


    Great news.....

    Church of England to launch a 'Google Maps for graves' within five years enabling family historians to search for burial records and locations in an online database

    Thousands of cemeteries across the UK will be imaged and mapped over the next five years to create a comprehensive database of British burial sites. 

    The Church of England project hopes to immortalise the tombs of millions of people buried in Anglican graveyards as well as those interred on unconsecrated land.

    Maps and photographs will be uploaded alongside burial records in a searchable database at some point before 2026.  

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8068893/Church-England-launch-Google-Maps-graves-five-years.html


  • #379
    Rmulvany
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Rmulvany


    So I think I have reached near my limit on my family tree, having gone back 4/5 generations I can't seem to find any routes for new information to go further back.

    The only interesting documents that I have come across, thanks to Ancestry, is a couple of WW1 draft cards, awards, etc so I know that some G-Grand Uncles served in WW1.

    I am a fan of the series Who do you think you are, and I find it really interesting that the genealogists/historians can dig out all these old newspaper articles and documents etc related to a relative of the study.
    Is this something that I can do for my own tree, in the off-TV world.

    I have seen that sites exists such as Newspapers.com, where would I start looking for my ancestors, my mothers side is all from Clare.

    Or is this just me being naive to think that any of my ancestors did anything of note...


  • #380
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Have you done DNA testing?

    I've added about 1500 people to my tree since I did. The tree doesn't just go backwards, it goes sideways and down again.

    Irishnewsarchive is best for Ireland but unless you know there's something to find, it'll be very time consuming. I use it mainly to find 20th century death notices.

    Another area that is fruitful is the prison records. Almost everyone was arrested at some stage for drinking or fighting!

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  • #381
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Irish news paper archive is free to access in libraries.


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  • #382
    Rmulvany
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Rmulvany


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Have you done DNA testing?

    I've added about 1500 people to my tree since I did. The tree doesn't just go backwards, it goes sideways and down again.

    Irishnewsarchive is best for Ireland but unless you know there's something to find, it'll be very time consuming. I use it mainly to find 20th century death notices.

    Another area that is fruitful is the prison records. Almost everyone was arrested at some stage for drinking or fighting!

    Yeah I have tested with AncestryDNA and the data was added to GEDmatch and FTDNA. I have recently ordered a 23&me kit to get more.


  • #383
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Rmulvany wrote: »
    Yeah I have tested with AncestryDNA and the data was added to GEDmatch and FTDNA. I have recently ordered a 23&me kit to get more.

    You can also add the data to My Heritage for free.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #384
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Hope everyone's keeping well at this challenging time and keeping busy with research.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #385
    JDERIC2017
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭JDERIC2017


    Yes, strange times.... and you are right research will keep us occupied, can still go to work... for the time being anyway.

    Recently found a bigamist in the family who married (2nd marriage) his first cousin....


  • #386
    BowWow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭BowWow


    The Dog Licence upload on to Ancestry.com has been great craic for the last few days.

    Some family members have more interest in the dogs that their ancestors! :rolleyes:


  • #387
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Funny thing on the Ancestry recent uploads...

    I was disappointed when Find My Past didn't have free access for St. Patrick's Day as I was keen to view a single image from the Incumbered Estate records which I had overlooked the last time I had a subscription.

    And then low and behold Ancestry announce they now have those records on their site so one more small item ticked off the endless to-do list.

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  • #388
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Bigamy and needing a dispensation to marry your cousin: I love it!

    I'm doing some client work but a message from an Ancestry user (a known to me third cousin) caused me to pull out some research done by someone in that branch of the family. When I was younger I accepted it wholesale but have found over the years that it was not the full picture. To be fair to her, it was compiled in the pre-internet era by bothering priests and asking people so it's broadly correct to a point. However, I found a bit last night that is wrong in many places so I'm going to pull it apart over the next few days and see what bits can be verified.

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  • #389
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    I've an ancestor with her ancestry tree copied several times with an obvious error, stating the mam (and dad) had a child at the age of 8 ....yet no one questions this.

    The originator (clearly) misinterpreted (and posted on Find-a-grave) the headstone of their childs death as age 11, instead of the correct death of a 1 year old, and ancestry copies the FAG info semi-automatically, when linked. The FAG originator won't change the data, to avoid further errors.


  • #390
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    BowWow wrote: »
    The Dog Licence upload on to Ancestry.com has been great craic for the last few days.

    Some family members have more interest in the dogs that their ancestors! :rolleyes:

    This is on ancestry now? COOOOOOOL! :D
    It was a fave feature on the Ireland genealogy site.


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  • #391
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    However, I found a bit last night that is wrong in many places so I'm going to pull it apart over the next few days and see what bits can be verified.

    Er, so my estimate of days was wrong. Turns out when you've nothing to do all day...

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