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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Drones have altered the game in the Middle East

    It's gotten more common but for most part it's just Iran poking Saudi Arabia trying to draw them in deeper or trying to get the US to react ,

    The Iranian drones tend to be not the most accurate of vehicles for combat ,most new anti systems are now equipped for anti drone operations which would make all but the best useless in certain cases .but they could have a pysoclogical effect showing iran can hit saudi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Iranian government says Grace 1 will be leaving Gibraltar this evening or tomorrow afternoon ,
    They also renamed the vessel to Adrian Darya-1

    Tracking ok now heading to Greece. Not boarded yet. US issued a warrant authorities refused the request. Should know by Tomorrow, if action was taken. I think the British want their tanker back, they probably made a deal with Iran?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I think the British want their tanker back, they probably made a deal with Iran?

    The empty one with no British crew vs tanker with millions of dollars worth of oil .
    Makes you wonder what Iran had to give up


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    Gatling wrote: »
    The empty one with no British crew vs tanker with millions of dollars worth of oil .
    Makes you wonder what Iran had to give up

    The tanker that was seized where the British warship watched and did nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    The tanker that was seized where the British warship watched and did nothing.

    Not true unfortunately


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    I get the feeling most of this stuff is faked and is there to suit certain countries, the oil industry, the arms industry and the stock market. 'Unimportant countries' like Yemen suffer the most so some stock market tycoon type can gain massive profits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I think that you will find that the Yemenis have always desired to fight each other, even now do you know how many factions are involved ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    The empty one with no British crew vs tanker with millions of dollars worth of oil .
    Makes you wonder what Iran had to give up

    Still a British flagged tanker. Looks brand new.

    The Iranian Grace 1 tanker old and rusty.

    The Grace 1 now travelling at 7 knots an hour. It travelling slow, at this speed it take many days, to a week for it to reach Greece.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Still a British flagged tanker. Looks brand new.

    The Iranian Grace 1 tanker old and rusty.
    .

    Full of black gold., 2 million barrels to exact

    Iran threatened to dispatch it's navy to Gibraltar to protect it's oil don't think anyone took any real notice of the threat


    "Greece has refused to help the Iranian tanker recently detained in Gibraltar on suspicion of shipping oil to Syria.

    Deputy foreign minister Miltiadis Varvitsiotis told broadcaster ANT1 his country was "not willing to facilitate the course of this ship to Syria".

    The move comes after US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo threatened sanctions on any country that helps the tanker.

    Adrian Darya-1 left Gibraltar on Sunday and listed the Greek port Kalamata as its destination"


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49419375


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Pompeo is a disgrace. He should mind his own business and but out of Iran's, Gibraltar's, Greece's and Syria's affairs. The nerve of this guy threatening countries all over the world. Pompeo is a member of one of the worst regimes ever on the face of the earth and does not realise it. Pompeo and all that April 2018 shower are just modern versions of the Nazis and are in NO POSITION to criticise any other nation.

    Pompeo and his regime are the United States of nothing. Divisive Neo-Nazis more like it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The tanker has know suggested it's new destination in a port in Turkey which is about 100 miles from the Syrian port it was planned to head to originally


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    So Iranian FM arrives at the g7, invited by the French apparently and not due to talk with Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Israel now claiming they have prevented an imminent Iranian attack.

    https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1165377368220942337

    https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1165371928141533185

    There was also an incident in Beruit Lebanon, last night. A drone loaded with TNT damaged a Hezbollah office. Hezbollah blames Israel for the attack. Hezbollah plans to strike back it will likely happen in the next 24 hours?

    https://www-1.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/article234356277.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Israel now claiming they have prevented an imminent Iranian attack.

    Pretty regular occurrence ,

    Iran moves equipment or men and Israel strikes -

    iran then are afraid to respond


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Pretty regular occurrence ,

    Iran moves equipment or men and Israel strikes -

    iran then are afraid to respond

    No. Israel is saying Iran was about to launch a major drone strike. Very different news.

    Hezbollah leader now appeared on TV and claiming they will respond militarily to this, in hours or days. Tensions are about to go up a level, if Hezbollah fires rockets into Israel territory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    No. Israel is saying Iran was about to launch a major drone strike. Very different news.

    Not different at all ,as I said Iran moves equipment and men and Israel strikes .
    Nothing new for several decades,

    A few rockets get fired towards Israel who them return the favour with overwhelming force ,
    Iran and hizbolla shut up for a while and we start again





    "Israel has struck Iranian military sites in Syria to prevent what it said was a pending drone strike by Iran.

    Israel's military rarely acknowledges operations in Syria, but it claimed on Saturday its strikes had prevented an attack on Israel "using killer drones".

    PM Benjamin Netanyahu hailed his military's "major operational effort".

    Israel is believed to have carried out hundreds of strikes in Syria since civil war broke out there in 2011, to try to prevent Iran gaining a foothold.

    An Israeli military spokesman said the strikes on Saturday targeted Iran's Quds force in Aqraba, south-east of the capital, Damascus.

    A Syrian military source quoted by the official Sana news agency said that Syrian anti-aircraft defences "detected enemy targets from Golan heading towards the area around Damascus".

    "The aggression was immediately confronted and so far the majority of the enemy Israeli missiles have been destroyed before reaching their targets," the source said.

    In a tweet, Mr Netanyahu said: "I reiterate: Iran has no immunity anywhere. Our forces operate in every sector against the Iranian aggression. 'If someone rises up to kill you, kill him first.'"


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49464546





    I love how the Syrians claimed to have intercepted and shot down the missles (something they been proved incapable of doing)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Israel now claiming they have prevented an imminent Iranian attack.

    How much for the rock?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not different at all ,as I said Iran moves equipment and men and Israel strikes .
    Nothing new for several decades,

    A few rockets get fired towards Israel who them return the favour with overwhelming force ,
    Iran and hizbolla shut up for a while and we start again


    I love how the Syrians claimed to have intercepted and shot down the missles (something they been proved incapable of doing)

    Very different, supposedly this time, an imminent Iranian drone attack was just about to happen. They hit the site, last night before drones could cross the Syrian border and strike Israel

    Israel, yes you correct carries out strikes inside Syria to stop the flow of Iranian weapons.Yet i don't see how that can be considered an imminent threat to Israel?. They're just handing over to the Iranian - Syrian groups better military hardware, that may in the future be used.

    Israel has not striked inside Lebanon since 2006. Last night attack was an escalation .There IDF airstrikes occuring inside, east Lebanon tonight in last half hour. Unclear right now if they have hit a Palestinian or Hezbollah target inside Lebanon. Israel has opened a new front this weekend and we have to wait and see if Hezbelloh will hit back?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Very different, supposedly this time, an imminent Iranian drone attack was just about to happen.

    "Claimed" is the keyword here


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Very different, supposedly this time, an imminent Iranian drone attack was just about to happen. They hit the site, last night before drones could cross the Syrian border and strike Israel

    Israel, yes you correct carries out strikes inside Syria to stop the flow of Iranian weapons.Yet i don't see how that can be considered an imminent threat to Israel?. They're just handing over to the Iranian - Syrian groups better military hardware, that may in the future be used.

    Israel has not striked inside Lebanon since 2006. Last night attack was an escalation .There IDF airstrikes occuring inside, east Lebanon tonight in last half hour. Unclear right now if they have hit a Palestinian or Hezbollah target inside Lebanon. Israel has opened a new front this weekend and we have to wait and see if Hezbelloh will hit back?


    Not true Israel has attacked Lebanon on a number of occasions since 2006 including murdering a UN soldier.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Not true Israel has attacked Lebanon on a number of occasions since 2006 including murdering a UN soldier.

    Israel attacking Lebanon with aircraft has not taken place since 2006. Hezbelloh Leader Hassan Nasrallah went on TV and said they will strike back and will respond. The region just waiting to see what the response will be. It likely be tame, i doubt Lebanon wants another big war. The problem Israel will likely be very aggressive if Israeli bases and soldiers are targetted by Hezbelloh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    "Claimed" is the keyword here

    Israel claim true. It hard to tell if its a lie to justify a strike inside Lebanon or its the truth. Israel for some reason though thinks it terrible the Iranians would even attempt this, but completely ignore there aggressive moves around the region for the last few years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Israel attacking Lebanon with aircraft has not taken place since 2006.
    Not true the Israeli air force has attacked on Lebanese soil several times since 2006.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Not true the Israeli air force has attacked on Lebanese soil several times since 2006.

    Several attacks, not that i know of? Look you may be right, just provide the information and sources and i will look at it!

    Last weekend strikes are significant, as they targeted a bomb factory, and an office belonging to Hezbollah in Beirut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Hezbollah has now attacked IDF military vehicles along the Lebanon border. Report of Casualties. There is a report a Israel base was also attacked unconfirmed, just reported. Israel responding.

    This is serious. Hezbollah claiming they have taken out an Israeli tank.
    https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1168158343401226240


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,411 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Hezbollah has now attacked IDF military vehicles along the Lebanon border. Report of Casualties. There is a report a Israel base was also attacked unconfirmed, just reported. Israel responding.

    If this is true there will be one hell of a response.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Hezbollah has now attacked IDF military vehicles along the Lebanon border. Report of Casualties. There is a report a Israel base was also attacked unconfirmed, just reported. Israel responding.

    I suppose if Israel is putting hole's in the soil of sovereign countries, it's up to those countries to respond in kind...

    Israel has attacked Lebanon, Syria and Iraq in the last few weeks.
    And they've attacked Iranian soldiers in different countries, I'm sure this won't go unanswered.

    They have stolen land from the Arab's too, including the Golan heights.

    But sure that's the way they play.

    If they keep up their antic's the whole world is going to turn a blind eye if a big war breaks out.

    Hopefully for Israel's sake the democrats in America won't get in in the next election...

    With Trump there at least they're some support.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    jackboy wrote: »
    If this is true there will be one hell of a response.

    It's true. I just can't confirm how widespread the Hezbelloh attack is right now.

    Whats confirmed on feeds, a number of IDF military vehicles were targetted by Hezbollah missiles.

    Lebanese media now reports Israeli artillery is landing near the town of Yaroun in southern Lebanon.

    If they killed Israeli soldiers. Then we could be witnessing the start of a third Lebanon war.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    nthclare wrote: »
    I suppose if Israel is putting hole's in the soil of sovereign countries, it's up to those countries to respond in kind...

    Israel has attacked Lebanon, Syria and Iraq in the last few weeks.
    And they've attacked Iranian soldiers in different countries, I'm sure this won't go unanswered.

    They have stolen land from the Arab's too, including the Golan heights.

    But sure that's the way they play.

    If they keep up their antic's the whole world is going to turn a blind eye if a big war breaks out.

    Hopefully for Israel's sake the democrats in America won't get in in the next election...

    With Trump there at least they're some support.

    Its a terrible for Israel and Lebanon if war does break out. The Israeli leadership are not helping the situation stay calm. You can't just bomb Lebanon and expect no military response. Situation right now is unclear. Israel jets have taken off and reportedly hitting positions inside Lebanon.

    Hezbollah allegedly targeted IDF troop carrier on the road of the settlement of Avivim. If soldiers died there, it not good.

    Alleged picture taken at the border were fighting is happening.
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