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Conference Week

  • 06-04-2021 8:33am
    #1
    itrip
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭


    Maybe I'm on a different planet but hearing CK on radio, making no sense at all...So are unions really going to waste time this week, discussing teachers place in vaccine queue 7 weeks from end of term(second level).We'll all be vaccinated by Sept. Unions seem to like nothing better than balloting and threatening strike action but to what purpose and rarely seem articulate when pressed on issues in media interviews.......what about more important issues like fact that there are so many teachers on two different pay scales..


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  • #2
    Random sample
    Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Random sample


    I’ve looked at the schedule and it’s not on it. I think someone is trying to get it added as an emergency motion... which will probably also waste a lot of discussion time.

    I agree that there’s no way we will be vaccinated by the end of May, so let’s focus on being done by September.

    I wonder is all of this noise a tactic to make sure we get the j&j vaccine and be done in one go? It could be a ‘compromise’ to give teachers, sna’s, childcare workers and Gardaí the one dose vaccine, so not slowing down vaccination by the change the schedule.


  • #3
    Liberal_irony
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Liberal_irony


    itrip wrote: »
    what about more important issues like fact that there are so many teachers on two different pay scales..

    Pay parity not even mentioned in the ASTI schedule...


  • #4
    trebormurf
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭trebormurf


    All the LPTs are TUI members, leave them deal with it.


  • #5
    Treppen
    Registered Users Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Liberal_irony wrote: »
    Pay parity not even mentioned in the ASTI schedule...

    What?

    It's on the first page... under the many many motions for nqts and subs!!!

    https://www.asti.ie/document-library/preliminary-agenda-for-convention-2021/


  • #6
    mtoutlemonde
    Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    Treppen wrote: »
    What?

    It's on the first page... under the many many motions for nqts and subs!!!

    https://www.asti.ie/document-library/preliminary-agenda-for-convention-2021/

    Just to add, it's behind Ann Piggott, Kieran Christie and speaker podium.

    ASTI have never dropped equal work, equal pay.


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  • #7
    mtoutlemonde
    Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    Also, motion forwarded for casualisation of the career. Young teacher made a good point, 'we don't live a pro-rata life's


  • #8
    Newbie20
    Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Newbie20


    I personally think the unions have made a mess of things this week. I just assumed all along that we wouldn’t have been vaccinated before the summer and we still won’t be under the new rollout.

    I’m not quite sure what they are actually fighting for at this stage. For me, they should have just looked for assurances that we would all be vaccinated before returning in the new school year. There wasn’t a need to talk about strike etc. While I’m beyond caring what people think (people always find a way to give out about teachers due to the holidays) I think they’ve managed to made us look foolish.


  • #9
    Liberal_irony
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Liberal_irony


    Frankly, I find it insulting that they've had over a decade to do something about pay parity together and not once did they join up in strike action but this nonsense get all three unions as one...


  • #10
    Treppen
    Registered Users Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Newbie20 wrote: »
    I personally think the unions have made a mess of things this week. I just assumed all along that we wouldn’t have been vaccinated before the summer and we still won’t be under the new rollout.

    I’m not quite sure what they are actually fighting for at this stage. For me, they should have just looked for assurances that we would all be vaccinated before returning in the new school year. There wasn’t a need to talk about strike etc. While I’m beyond caring what people think (people always find a way to give out about teachers due to the holidays) I think they’ve managed to made us look foolish.

    Well it's the members who brought forward the motion, not the senior Union leaders.

    "For me, they should have just looked for assurances that we would all be vaccinated before returning in the new school year. ".

    Teachers were already given assurances about vaccination but that just got thrown in the bin.
    But it's not like it's strike straight away, if 'new' assurances are sought and given then that's that, if assurances are not given then it'll be new school term before strike happens... and I can we'll see a scenario that the vaccination program will not meet targets.


  • #11
    Treppen
    Registered Users Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Liberal_irony wrote: »
    Frankly, I find it insulting that they've had over a decade to do something about pay parity together and not once did they join up in strike action but this nonsense get all three unions as one...

    It's just pay parity didn't hit primary teachers as much as secondary (relatively speaking)


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  • #12
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Treppen wrote: »
    It's just pay parity didn't hit primary teachers as much as secondary (relatively speaking)

    More so to do with leadership's refusal to acknowledge it.


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