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30-01-2021, 16:22   #1
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The saying that the IRA had no support during the troubles is a joke

The saying that the IRA had no support during the troubles is an absolute joke

As a unionist nothing makes me more sick than the IRA/SF/Republicans.

The IRA had high support during the troubles especially in the Republic of Ireland polls show in the late 70s early 80s 20 percent of people in the Republic of Ireland support the Provisional IRA, polls in the same time also show 80-90 percent of people wanting complete immediate unequivocal British withdrawal from Northern Ireland which is basically the same as support for the IRA.

Sinn Fein (the political wing of the IRA) was also taking roughly half the catholic vote in the 80s in Northern Ireland even though this was ten years later to the peak of IRA support in the early 70s.

The Republic of Ireland also had a territorial claim to my country throughout the whole of the troubles which further went to justify IRA violence.

This seems to be less prevalent but some people in the Republic of Ireland seem to believe that the PIRA was a Northern Irish organization which is not true at all the south of Ireland is just as sectarian as the Catholics in the north, the people who founded the PIRA were actually mostly from the republic and the British army believed that on the border areas (it’s most dangerous units) most of the IRA members were actually from and living on the other side of the border.

The IRA as a whole was mostly from the Republic the IRA had two sections North command and South command, South command consisted of about 2,000 members which were responsible for maintaining the IRA as a viable force responsible for things like funding, bomb making, bringing in weapons and transporting bombs to the roughly 500 members in the Northern command who are mainly from the north with a small amount from the border areas, the northern command is the part of the IRA that will actually carry out the bombings and shootings and are known as the hardcore members.

People don’t realize what Northern Ireland was like in the early 70s, in 1972 Belfast was one of the most dangerous places on earth that year alone the IRA exploded 1300 bombs on commercial targets justifying it by calling in warning but you explode 1300 bombs on buildings in that amount of time how can you expect to not have casualties.
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As a human I'm disgusted by all the murders in NI. People were murdered by Paramilitaries they were also murdered by state sponsored terrorism and of course not forgetting the murders committed by uniformed forces of the crown.
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As a human I'm disgusted by all the murders in NI. People were murdered by Paramilitaries they were also murdered by state sponsored terrorism and of course not forgetting the murders committed by uniformed forces of the crown.
Difference is the only side that is causing the troubles is the IRA, remove the IRA the war will end, remove any or all of the loyalist paramilitaries the troubles will still go on, remove the stare forces and the war will still go on but remove the IRA and the war would have ended at any point in the troubles.
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Who exactly said they had no support?
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Difference is the only side that is causing the troubles is the IRA, remove the IRA the war will end, remove any or all of the loyalist paramilitaries the troubles will still go on, remove the stare forces and the war will still go on but remove the IRA and the war would have ended at any point in the troubles.
Hello new account, you seem to have a serious revisionist history going on there. The IRA only existed because of years of mistreatment of catholics, Jerrymandering voting districts to keep Unionists in power and as was previously said, collision of loyalist gangs with the British government.

Long story short, it came from the actions of loyalists and the british government.
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Difference is the only side that is causing the troubles is the IRA, remove the IRA the war will end, remove any or all of the loyalist paramilitaries the troubles will still go on, remove the stare forces and the war will still go on but remove the IRA and the war would have ended at any point in the troubles.
Causing? You are suggesting the troubles are still ongoing. As an aside do you know why the IRA came back into existence?
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An oppressive, gerrymandered and apartheid State fomented support for the IRA.

Ordinary Catholics in the six counties certainly weren't getting any protection from the official security services, as they worked hand in glove with a Government and a bureaucracy that had the interests of only one side at heart.
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An oppressive, gerrymandered and apartheid State fomented support for the IRA.

Ordinary Catholics in the six counties certainly weren't getting any protection from the official security services, as they worked hand in glove with a Government and a bureaucracy that had the interests of only one side at heart.
This is not true there were many attempts in the 60s to give the civil rights movement ways forward but there were too many people intent on violence and were only using it to cause civil unrest to build support for an armed rebellion.
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An absolute nonsense thread where the OP is writing his/her own version of accepted history.
Good night folks I trust the Mods will deal with this rubbish.
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Agreed, close this rubbish
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An absolute nonsense thread where the OP is writing his/her own version of accepted history.
Good night folks I trust the Mods will deal with this rubbish.
The usual stuff from the shinners any talk about IRA violence and the shameful past of the republic and you can’t deal with it.
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