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Combine 2 houses into 1

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  • 08-03-2021 9:40am
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    BluePlanet
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    Just toying with an idea here.
    Say you have one small house on a row, and an adjacent house comes to the market.
    You want to buy it and knock through, to create one larger house.

    Do you think you could ever arrange things to have a single Local Property Tax for the 1 larger house and not pay LPT for 2 houses?
    What about insurance, would they ever accept things as 1 house?
    ESB? - you'd probably save on having a single service charge for the 1 house rather than 2 separate meters.


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    3DataModem
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    It has been done, but you'd need to speak to a solicitor as there would be planning implications.


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    Mic 1972
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    Doubling the size of my house and getting rid of the next door neighbors, I would love to do that!


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    Gumbo
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    BluePlanet wrote: »
    Just toying with an idea here.
    Say you have one small house on a row, and an adjacent house comes to the market.
    You want to buy it and knock through, to create one larger house.

    Do you think you could ever arrange things to have a single Local Property Tax for the 1 larger house and not pay LPT for 2 houses?
    What about insurance, would they ever accept things as 1 house?
    ESB? - you'd probably save on having a single service charge for the 1 house rather than 2 separate meters.

    Yes. Planning required.
    Then just have to go through the motions of the utilities.


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    Gael23
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    You’d need planning permission and a solicitor to draft new deeds for the property and sort out land registry. Then you’d just have to reconfigure the internal layout to make it work


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    KaneToad
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    I think some family did this on that Dermot Bannon show. They bought the neighbouring semi D and created a single house.


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    tscul32
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    House near me like that. Was 2 semi d's, now one big detached house.


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    awec
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    Surely this would be an expensive thing to do? Not only do you need to buy the house, but the interior will need completely gutted if you want to turn it into something sensible (i.e. you don't want 6/8 average sized bedrooms with 2 kitchens, 2 utility rooms, 6 bathrooms and 2 dining rooms etc).


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    tscul32
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    For anyone interested, F08A/1435 is the planning reference for fingalcoco planning section https://fingalcoco.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=3fa7d9df584c4d93aab202638db9dd1a for 2 houses that became 1, floor plans included.


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    BluePlanet
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    awec wrote: »
    Surely this would be an expensive thing to do? Not only do you need to buy the house, but the interior will need completely gutted if you want to turn it into something sensible (i.e. you don't want 6/8 average sized bedrooms with 2 kitchens, 2 utility rooms, 6 bathrooms and 2 dining rooms etc).

    It's a fixer upper already.


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    1874
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    Might want to look into the electrical supply aspects, while not insurmountable, there could be issues if 2 electrical supplies from 2 different houses got joined.
    Not an electrician, but am somewhat familiar with electrical theory, the supplies for house are single phase, if the house is out on its own somewhere it may be less of an issue, but if located near other houses or in an estate, the single phases to houses is shared/spread/balanced (whatever way you want to word it) from three separate phases.
    Overall it may not affect things disconnecting one supply and joining it through one supply, but if keeping 2 supplies separate you'd have 2 phases out of sync so Id hazard a guess the electricity network would have to be consulted.


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    Ubbquittious
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    awec wrote: »
    Surely this would be an expensive thing to do? Not only do you need to buy the house, but the interior will need completely gutted if you want to turn it into something sensible (i.e. you don't want 6/8 average sized bedrooms with 2 kitchens, 2 utility rooms, 6 bathrooms and 2 dining rooms etc).




    It depends on the use. You could turf out the beds from the bedrooms and make offices out of them quickly. The kitchen can become a scullery. Keep the bathrooms as spare. Really all you need to do is put a hole in the wall and join the electricity to save a few bob.



    I know a place where two were knocked into one but the houses were very small so wouldn't have been very hard to do


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