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The story is beyond ****e - just incoherent nonsense. But that’s basically the default for both this series and the wider genre. Best to simply accept it as the half-assed excuse for the good stuff (the combat)
On the plus side, I do appreciate the running gag of the van being able to show up anywhere, no matter how absurd and impractical.0 -
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »The story is beyond ****e - just incoherent nonsense. But that’s basically the default for both this series and the wider genre. Best to simply accept it as the half-assed excuse for the good stuff (the combat)
On the plus side, I do appreciate the running gag of the van being able to show up anywhere, no matter how absurd and impractical.
Yeah even as a fan of the DMC story in general, it has always been kinda awful, cheesy and mostly nonsense. But it suits the general tone of the game and can occasionally have its moments. Really though, it's just there to give you a reason to go from Point A to Point B to Dual Lightning Chainsaw Motorbike.0 -
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »The story is beyond ****e - just incoherent nonsense. But that’s basically the default for both this series and the wider genre. Best to simply accept it as the half-assed excuse for the good stuff (the combat)
On the plus side, I do appreciate the running gag of the van being able to show up anywhere, no matter how absurd and impractical.
You have to assume (or hope) the writers are aware of the nonsense they are creating. Just a series of unrelatable events and some very unsubtle references to Virgil.
Ultimately it's like a 60s batman series of episodes; simple but brimming with character, one liners and a whole lot of BANG, SOCK, BLAMMO! in between.
Faust hats off to anyone who had anything to do with Nico, far and away the best reason to watch the cutscenes. If they decide to go with further dlc or a future definitive edition, making her playable with some whacky style should be top priority.0 -
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »The story is beyond ****e - just incoherent nonsense. But that’s basically the default for both this series and the wider genre. Best to simply accept it as the half-assed excuse for the good stuff (the combat)
On the plus side, I do appreciate the running gag of the van being able to show up anywhere, no matter how absurd and impractical.
Maybe reconsider?
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While I don't support DRM in general its not malware. Least not by the standard definition of malware.
It shares all the key characteristics of it. It's based off of stolen code and the company is a racket. https://torrentfreak.com/denuvo-accused-of-using-unlicensed-software-to-protect-it-anti-piracy-tool-170605/ Although the companies seem to have no beef with each other anymore, their origins as SecuROM mean they really just can't be trusted.malicious software, is any software used to disrupt computer operations, gather sensitive information, gain access to private computer systems, or display unwanted advertising.[1] Malware is defined by its malicious intent, acting against the requirements of the computer user, and does not include software that causes unintentional harm due to some deficiency. The term badware is sometimes used, and applied to both true (malicious) malware and unintentionally harmful software.[2]
Denuvo does all except advertising. It intentionally disrupts/blocks your access to game if you don't fulfill its requirements. It also says in the EULA (I read them :pac:) that the software may remain in your system even after uninstalling the game - literally the biggest red flag for malicious software is it being made intentionally difficult to remove.The performance issue in Tekken 7 relating to one specific move for one specific character was caused by Denuvo or at least an improper implementation of it. Was fixed in a patch.
Yes but also an unknown amount of performance hit overall. The fact that one time (in an update) it caused a sub-60 dip from one move doesn't mean it isn't causing other overall performance issues that require people to play on lower settings or better hardware. It also makes it sh*tier (but not impossible) to use on unsupported platforms like Linux. It's a complete bane to the customer.Denuvo when it first appeared on the scene was very difficult to crack and some games remained uncracked for months. For the most part its being cracked very quickly in the recent years although occasional updated versions of it hold out for a couple of day or weeks.
The biggest reason games don't get cracked isn't usually the DRM, it's 1. how 'software as a service' the game has become (For Honor) and 2. How much interest. If it's a classic release model with tons of interest, it'll get cracked quickly.Developers and publishers aren't keen on throwing away money. They must have some reason to keep using DRM systems. Like if a game holds out from being cracked for just a couple of days they might consider the cost worthwhile.
They may think that due to the business advertising Denuvo does to scare clueless suits into thinking it will protect their investment when there's no scientific evidence that it encourages purchases. But this information is suppressed: https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537
Game publisher's behavior in regards to games a service, removal of LAN and custom servers, and which games have used Denuvo suggest that piracy isn't the main reason Denuvo is used. Control of the user experience and increasing DLC/MTs business models seems to be the primary reason why things like Denuvo exist.
To put it in perspective, Dues Ex MD has/had MTs that are/were one-time-use and just standard in-game items to give you an edge. Effectively making it so that if you were to do something as simple as mod/cheat in some item drops, you've essentially pirated DLC content by proxy... and the publisher and Denuvo would know all about it. Absurdity.Were did you get the figure of 300K from. Often in discussions about Denuvo people claim it costs a lot of money to implement and that money would be better spent on the game development and bug fixing, but I never see any links to the actual cost of implementing Denuvo or if they have a contact what it terms are. For example if Denuvo is cracked day 1 or withing a short time period of time do they developers get a refund or partial refund? In DMC5's case though Denuvo wasn't cracked it was Capcom who goofed up.
You're right, I was incorrect, it was 100K not 300K. It was found out on 8chan, possibly the gamergate threads I can't remember. Someone posed as a big game developer and contacted Denuvo. The sales staff quoted a price. Probably the closest we'll ever get to finding out how much these things actually cost.Anyway I didn't intend to play DMC5 but it came free with my last graphics card
Yeah I'm playing a friend of mine's copy with the DRM and steam removed. I think it's absolutely fantastic, one of the best DMCs yet. Can't wait for the malware to be removed as I'd love to support the game, support the Vergil DLC as well as enjoy the updates, achievements, scoreboard etc.
Sorry 'bout the wall-o-text
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Spent some time yesterday farming orbs in Mission 13. Got over 6million after a while. Dr. Faust is actually a really fun weapon to use, even though I was mostly spamming the same attack repeatedly.
Might do a bit more farming just to buy all the skills (well, would only really need enough now to buy the 3mil taunts for each), then might attack Son of Sparda mode. Don't know if I'll get to the likes of DMD or Hell or Hell modes (only DMC game I completed them on was DMC2), but SoS should do it for me.
I completed the game yesterday. Brilliant stuff. Looking forward to what looks like a new game plus on the higher difficulty.
I haven't figured out how you use that Dr Faust weapon. What's the trick?
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Fred The Red wrote: »I completed the game yesterday. Brilliant stuff. Looking forward to what looks like a new game plus on the higher difficulty.
I haven't figured out how you use that Dr Faust weapon. What's the trick?
Although I pissed myself laughing when I found it in game first
All Dr. Faust attacks use red orbs, but you can earn more than you spend, particularly with attacks that put a Faust hat on the enemy. It makes them drop orbs while you're attacking with the hat or any other weapon. But if you get hit by an enemy with a faust hat, you lose more orbs. It's tricky, but there's an area in mission13 where you can exploit it by replaying it and farm orbs fairly quickly by spamming the same attack.
I rarely use range weapons or gunslinger though, so haven't used it much outside of that.0 -
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