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Nite site wolf etc. Legality?

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  • #32
    slipperyox
    Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    well said Cass. we're all on the same side


  • #33
    Zxthinger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Zxthinger


    slipperyox wrote: »
    well said Cass. we're all on the same side

    The men of Innishfree bid you welcome. Lol


  • #34
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    However,the actual correct and original term for these are silencers.It's what Hiram Percy Maxim who invented them called them in his patent about 110 years ago.
    It is really semantics as to what you call these.Calling them suppressors is technically correct,as they do not completely silence the gunshot.Calling them silencers is more legally and historically correct.Either way,both terms are correct and are interchangeable.
    https://www.silencershop.com/blog/post/silencer-suppressor/

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #35
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    The thing is just because the fella that invented them called them that, they don't do it. So inventor or not he is still wrong or as i like to say he has just been wrong for longer.

    I mean i can stick teats on a bull and call it a cow, but it's just not.

    Sorry, it's my incessant need to have the last word. :o:D
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  • #36
    rugerfanatic
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    How can the inventor of something, who names it, be using the wrong name?
    :confused:

    Or am I having a blond moment? :o


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  • #37
    Cass
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    You're not having a blonde moment, it's me just prolonging an absolutely pointless and frankly boring point of debate.

    What i meant by it's called the wrong thing is it doesn't do what the name suggests. It doesn't silence sh*t, it suppresses the heard report. Now i'll get someone that'll say with the right firearm, ammo, and a large enough can you'll get next to silence, but that is the exception.

    It just bothers me how AGS call them silencers, weapons, etc. and we go along with it for fear of annoying them. They're wrong and should be told as much no matter how much they don't like haring it.
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  • #38
    Bogwoppit
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    Why do we call radiators radiators? Well that’s what they were called from the start, but they don’t work by radiating heat, they work by convection, we should call the convectioners, but we don’t.


  • #39
    rugerfanatic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭rugerfanatic


    OK

    For me, they can call 'em what they want once the licence them. Life is too short to be worrying about it.

    Now for a right good tangent :p

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shift-mind/201103/why-is-it-so-important-be-right


  • #40
    Cass
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    Bogwoppit wrote: »
    Why do we call radiators radiators?
    As soon as they restrict, ban or limit the number of radiators based on their Hollywood image i'll accept that comparison.
    Now for a right good tangent

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...rtant-be-right
    You're right, ok here goes:

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  • #41
    rugerfanatic
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    Cass wrote: »
    You're right,

    If you say so :)
    Cass wrote: »
    ok here goes:

    giphy.gif

    Which is exactly how I feel about your issues with what a silencer is or isn't called :pac:


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  • #42
    Cass
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    Too cruel, too cruel. :(
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  • #43
    rugerfanatic
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    Cass wrote: »
    Too cruel, too cruel. :(


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  • #44
    Grizzly 45
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    Semantics,shamantics!!!
    Its the same as anyone calling any 4wd vehicles a "Jeep".We all know there are 100 of variations of the theme, but it is just common word parlance in the English language. Now if you were to be technical, IE in court or otherwise,then Yes a "2000 Toyota Landcruiser mod XYZ" would be a better and appropriate description.

    Calling them either term is correct. were it an application a suppressor is probably technically better, but it's not fooling anyone in the know. Least of all people like BATF...who copped the "sound suppressor" import trick from the UK, sometime around the 1950s.

    Also, when Mr Maxim invented and patented these 100 odd years ago, in America[also kind of important,as they do have different words for things over there..] people weren't that pedantic on what every word meant literally.
    As he was more interested in eliminating noise at source, and that new fangled contraption the automobile was making its appearance.He sold a few patents with "engine silencer" on them as well.Only later did they become "mufflers" or "exhaust boxes".
    "Suppressors" only really came into fashion around the 1960s Vietnam era, when the US military got involved in their usage. And if anyone who has experience of the US armed forces, just about everything, has to be called something military and given a lengthy serial number. IE a "shovel becomes a "Current issue spec general purpose entrenching tool shovel,serial number USMC mod blah,blah,yada.":eek: So no wonder the poor ol silencer, so known by the US OSS and UK equivalent in the 1940s became the "suppressor":)

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