Yellow vest movement ireland

mad muffin · 13-12-2018 3:24pm

ITS TIME TO CRUSH THE BOURGEOISE!!!

CrankyHaus · 13-12-2018 3:30pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Green technologies are the way forward. I’m not sure why the EU isn’t trying to finance green technology as a way out of the semi permanent slowdown.

The important position of auto companies is one answer. Recent growth slowdowns in the eurozone have been attributed to car companies having to meet the new "stricter" emissions rules, which gives you some idea of their scale. European emissions standards were structured and applied in a diesel friendly way which gave them a dominant advantage over foreigners, which gives you some idea of their influence. They bet the house on diesel while competitors abroad outstripped them in hybrid, electric and even hydrogen technology. Green technology policies (now that we can no longer pretend diesels are green) would screw them further and their influence means that cannot happen.

Ray Palmer · 13-12-2018 3:32pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Are emissions because we are all driving more per capita or population increases?

It is obviously driving more and not population increase. When I was a child only one car per household and many with none. Many grandparents didn't have cars now they do. Many households now have over 2 cars now. Then they use them for very small journeys because they have paid for them.

mikhail · 13-12-2018 3:40pm

johndeere3350 wrote: »

The latest brainwave by Shane Ross seems to have pissed off alot of people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC3W1BiUjp0

DS86DS · 13-12-2018 3:53pm

whippet wrote: »

yellow vests in ireland will just be the usual rag tag group of the permanently outraged classes.

I can see Ben Gilroy already on social media giving it a big plug - so that should tell you a lot about what it's about.

What a load of crap. The "permanently outraged classes".....the smug, arrogant and elitist left that run Ireland today like every other country in Western Europe...............are the ones that find the most ridiculous things to be outrsged by, including for anybody DARING to have an opinion on the EU or immigration differing from there's.

Europe is in revolt against the One World Creed of the EU and UN. And for good reason......... people no longer feel at home in the lands that hundreds of generations of their ancestors handed to them.

People are having their communities go through violent change in the space of mere years..........and are afraid for the future of their children and grandchildren.

How dare you in your haughty leftist smugness just sssume that the Yellow Vest Movement is full of riff raff.

If anything, they are better educated on the current state of the world than elitist ivory tower ledtiets......who don't even live in the areas subject to such violent change.

While the snivelling and privileged leftists continue to pontificate from s moral high ground about subjects they know next to nothing about.....

.......the ordinary people of Europe and the USA are in revolt.

2018 is the new 1789 and 1848.

sjb25 · 13-12-2018 3:56pm

The Tetrarch wrote: »

The French like a riot.
The Irish like to moan.

Exactly..... a protest is it ah no sure ‘‘tis to cold for that and sure match is on the Telly that day and I’m out for a few pints and anyway sure wouldn’t do anything the baxstards wouldn’t listen to us

CucaFace · 13-12-2018 4:01pm

Its the French love for protesting and general mayhem when they don't like something has caused their economy to be in the poor state it is today. So many young French people have to move here now to have any chance of finding their first jobs in life , can you imagine if you were told this by someone 25/30 years ago that the French would be immigrating to Ireland...

So you honestly think its smart to actually copy the French???

By the way you can take it we have no hope of ever tackling climate change now, based on the reaction in France to higher taxes on fuel and the way their Government quickly caved into their demands.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-12-2018 4:04pm

CrankyHaus wrote: »

The important position of auto companies is one answer. Recent growth slowdowns in the eurozone have been attributed to car companies having to meet the new "stricter" emissions rules, which gives you some idea of their scale. European emissions standards were structured and applied in a diesel friendly way which gave them a dominant advantage over foreigners, which gives you some idea of their influence. They bet the house on diesel while competitors abroad outstripped them in hybrid, electric and even hydrogen technology. Green technology policies (now that we can no longer pretend diesels are green) would screw them further and their influence means that cannot happen.

Ok but the ECB can print money. Diverting money to banks that are specialist in funding green technologies might be a good idea.

whisky_galore · 13-12-2018 4:04pm

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Doubled is not enough, need 500% increase to notice any meaningful difference.

Why should ordinary people be slapped around without providing any alternatives? Thank fook you're not in charge of anything.

Wheeliebin30 · 13-12-2018 4:05pm

The fact is Irish people know they have it better than 95% of the worlds population deep down.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-12-2018 4:09pm

Ray Palmer wrote: »

It is obviously driving more and not population increase. When I was a child only one car per household and many with none. Many grandparents didn't have cars now they do. Many households now have over 2 cars now. Then they use them for very small journeys because they have paid for them.

we were talking about the recent failures to meet our climate change emissions, agreed I think at Paris. So stories about grandparents aren’t really an answer to that particular question.

It’s a false dichotomy anyway - as both car usage per capita and population increases would have increased emissions.

I’ve yet to see a 3 car family. There are plenty two car families with two people working which is something else we should improve on. Public transport.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-12-2018 4:10pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Why should ordinary people be slapped around without providing any alternatives? Thank fook you're not in charge of anything.

He’s right though. The taxes have to change behaviour. So they have to hurt.

But if they hurt you get the yellow vests

dundalkfc10 · 13-12-2018 4:11pm

sjb25 wrote: »

Exactly..... a protest is it ah no sure ‘‘tis to cold for that and sure match is on the Telly that day and I’m out for a few pints and anyway sure wouldn’t do anything the baxstards wouldn’t listen to us

Why protest?

The same bunch of clowns will be in charge of us for years to come.

Failing Health System, Failing Education, Housing at emergency levels and the Govt have got given the job for another year.

All this talk about McGregor a scumbag etc . LEO is a Scumbag!

Wheeliebin30 · 13-12-2018 4:11pm

There was an ice age 30,000 years ago and ther will be one again soon yet people blame humans for climate change??

Wheeliebin30 · 13-12-2018 4:12pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Why protest?

The same bunch of clowns will be in charge of us for years to come.

Failing Health System, Failing Education, Housing at emergency levels and the Govt have got given the job for another year.

All this talk about McGregor a scumbag etc . LEO is a Scumbag!

Failing education?????

Guy:Incognito · 13-12-2018 4:15pm

John Sacrimoni wrote: »

id never condone that.
In an ideal world none of that would not happen. Even with 99% of protestors with good intentions the 1% of bogeys would still spoil it.

Government buildings would be legitimate targets. Id like to see them try stop 50,000 people heading through them dail gates.

This is all hypothetical anyway, i dont think we are anywhere near a point where any of that would be warranted.

And who pays for government buildings?

whisky_galore · 13-12-2018 4:15pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

He’s right though. The taxes have to change behaviour. So they have to hurt.

Bit of they hurt you get the yellow vests

So we all have to walk to work now, because there's no public transport and driving has become something only the rich can afford?
It's a bit Irish.

Earthsnotflat · 13-12-2018 4:17pm

Yes but do you not think there is nothing new under the sun? I mean what really people expect to achieve by protesting against governments, yes there is lots of wrong in our societies, lots of injustice and inequality, but are people waiting for saviour? Someone to heal all that is wrong? What I mean when there's need there might just be someone round the corner to fill the void.. I prefer imperfect government protecting some basic freedoms and order than 'saviours' with ready answers

For Forks Sake · 13-12-2018 4:18pm

You know that no matter how well intentioned any protest may be, those Eirigi muppets are going to show up and f*ck it up.

Ray Palmer · 13-12-2018 4:20pm

DS86DS wrote: »

What a load of crap. The "permanently outraged classes".....the smug, arrogant and elitist left that run Ireland today like every other country in Western Europe...............are the ones that find the most ridiculous things to be outrsged by, including for anybody DARING to have an opinion on the EU or immigration differing from there's.

So you are basically calling for some kind of birth right like royalty of old but at a lower level so you have more rights.

Your annoyance seems to be the lower less privileged people don't like that people with less opportunities in life can compete with them. Do you see how they would see you as the privileged one?

You are more than welcome to your opinions but certain things are beyond your choice and will not change. They are the pillars of agreements the country made decades ago. Like people asking for capital punishment to return. It can't happen, we signed an agreement and it part of our EU membership. Same with refugees. Same mentality, it was democratic and is binding. You can't do what you want and that is the end of it. You can keep your opinion all you like and nobody is stopping you but it can't happen without some other massive changes that won't happen.

yourdeadwright · 13-12-2018 4:21pm

People are odd,

We are actually part of this bio sphere, the bio sphere created us , Basically we are they same thing as the world we live in,

Will climates changes because of us yes they will have an effect but that just part of the bio sphere evolving its going to happen no mater what,

Its like you see add's that animas are going extinct and we most save them but they fail to tell you that 99% of all Earth species to have lived on this planet are now Extinct ,It happened since time began ,

We get so caught up in our little time frame we imagine everything is new, but its all happened before , Don't be to worried about things you can't effect and enjoy your life ,

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Ray Palmer · 13-12-2018 4:24pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

So we all have to walk to work now, because there's no public transport and driving has become something only the rich can afford?
It's a bit Irish.

Something that is happening all around the world and you think there is something uniquely "Irish" about it?:rolleyes: Some people really need to look outside their own little bubble and check out the rest of the world

whisky_galore · 13-12-2018 4:26pm

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Something that is happening all around the world and you think there is something uniquely "Irish" about it?:rolleyes: Some people really need to look outside their own little bubble and check out the rest of the world

Would you walk 20 or 30km to work?

dundalkfc10 · 13-12-2018 4:26pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Failing education?????

Yes our education system is a shambles. Kids lifes basically shaped on leaving cert exams that are 50 years out of date

Wheeliebin30 · 13-12-2018 4:28pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Yes our education system is a shambles. Kids lifes basically shaped on leaving cert exams that are 50 years out of date

Yeah it shows in our unemployment rate and general well known educated population.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-12-2018 4:30pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

So we all have to walk to work now, because there's no public transport and driving has become something only the rich can afford?
It's a bit Irish.

Strawman. I didn’t say that. I actually said the taxes won’t ever work.

tabby aspreme · 13-12-2018 4:31pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Yes our education system is a shambles. Kids lifes basically shaped on leaving cert exams that are 50 years out of date

Used to be the way, but nowadays anybody over 23 can enter college as a mature student

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-12-2018 4:31pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Yes our education system is a shambles. Kids lifes basically shaped on leaving cert exams that are 50 years out of date

Naw, it’s pretty good comparatively.

Wheeliebin30 · 13-12-2018 4:33pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Yes our education system is a shambles. Kids lifes basically shaped on leaving cert exams that are 50 years out of date

It’s all Leo’s fault!!!

MonkeyTennis · 13-12-2018 4:38pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Used to be the way, but nowadays anybody over 23 can enter college as a mature student

Nope.

Yellow vest movement ireland

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