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Hi all,
Vanilla are planning an update to the site on April 24th (next Wednesday). It is a major PHP8 update which is expected to boost performance across the site. The site will be down from 7pm and it is expected to take about an hour to complete. We appreciate your patience during the update.
Thanks all.

National slow down day.

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    #32
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    That isn't quite true about ebikes. There are a lot of them sold that require a licence and insurance as they are not capped at 25kph. Some are not designed to adhere to EU regs st all by having throttles and not requiring peddling and others have been modified.

    The gardai don't know the models enough to spot the illegal ones but it is a matter of time before there is an accident and a public outcry.

    Even with the motor stopping you can still cycle faster. Hit 50kph regularly cycling. Cycling along 30kph limit along the quays is a complete joke as cars are all speeding well over the limit

    Fair enough, but I think it's fair to say that for a road-legal cyclist, speed limits don't apply.


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    #33
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    As someone who is pretty highly strung and on the go most of the time, slowing down and taking time out to chill, meditate and reflect is more important than ever in today's crazy hectic workd.


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    #34
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    amcalester wrote: »
    Fair enough, but I think it's fair to say that for a road-legal cyclist, speed limits don't apply.

    Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

    Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.


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    #35
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,268 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    wexie wrote: »
    Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

    Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.
    Speed limits only apply to mechanically propelled vehicles.

    There's very little enforcement of any Road Traffic Offences.


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    #36
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    wexie wrote: »
    Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

    Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.

    Speed limits apply to motorised vehicles. Ebikes don't count as they are motor assist unless as I stated earlier where they aren't assistant devices.

    The thing is the electric scooters and hoverboards do need to adhere to them but aren't legal for path or road use. An ever increasing number are appearing on the roads and an accident waiting to happen.


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    #37
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    wexie wrote: »
    Are you sure of that though? I don't know any better that speed limits are applicable for anything travelling on that particular road.

    Now whether or not it is actively enforced is an entirely different matter of course.

    100%, bikes aren't mechanically propelled vehicles and so aren't covered by the legislation.

    There are other offences that a Garda could charge an offending cyclist with, Riding a bicycle without reasonable consideration, being the closest applicable one that I know of.

    This is a Fixed Charge Offence too, €40 fine.


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    #38
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    amcalester wrote: »

    100%, bikes aren't mechanically propelled vehicles and so aren't covered by the legislation.

    There are other offences that a Garda could charge an offending cyclist with, Riding a bicycle without reasonable consideration, being the closest applicable one that I know of.

    That's nuts!


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    #39
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Lyle Lanley wrote: »
    The black lads are smarter, always stand behind other people if a car is coming at you.

    Operation Get behind the Commie!


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    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    wexie wrote: »
    That's nuts!

    Not really as cyclists don't pose anywhere near the level of danger motorised vehicles do. It really only applies to 30kph anyway . Very hard to find a motorist that adheres to that speed limit


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    #41
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    ��

    I think half of the posters in the thread seem to have missed this.


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    #42
    Infini
    Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    National milk the driver day. If they were serious they'd be patrolling actual blackspots but more likely they're just trying to milk people with speedtraps in the usual places where no accidents happen to make up their OT bill instead. Dont hate the guards myself but this whole excercise is obviously just to make money more than save lives.


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    #43
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,268 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Or people could just stick to the speed limits, and then they make nothing from days like this, or any speed enforcement...


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    #44
    Edward M
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    Infini wrote: »
    National milk the driver day. If they were serious they'd be patrolling actual blackspots but more likely they're just trying to milk people with speedtraps in the usual places where no accidents happen to make up their OT bill instead. Dont hate the guards myself but this whole excercise is obviously just to make money more than save lives.

    If that was the case they'd hardly publicise it, would they?
    Truth be told there should probably be a lot more speed checks.
    I'm not sure if the speed vans are achieving much, unless you are driving on unfamiliar roads.
    I know all the areas they cover now within my usual driving range and where they park so basically I know I only have to check my speed in certain places.
    Garda checks could bring in huge revenue I reckon if they made a really concentrated effort to "make money".


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    #45
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Infini wrote: »
    National milk the driver day. If they were serious they'd be patrolling actual blackspots but more likely they're just trying to milk people with speedtraps in the usual places where no accidents happen to make up their OT bill instead. Dont hate the guards myself but this whole excercise is obviously just to make money more than save lives.

    Give us a few examples of places you think the Gardaí should be patrolling to catch speeding drivers, please.


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    #46
    BeerWolf
    Registered Users Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    ... what?


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