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Small Talk.... a chit-chat thread for smallholders.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBhTyNbJE6A

    The above link is about vertical farming, i.e. growing food in buildings. It starts out in New York with some of the locally produced indoor food initiatives which are quite impressive but if you go to 21 minutes into the video it shows the Netherlands, wow! I new they do impressive there but was not expecting the scale of the production they have going on. The difference between the Netherlands and Ireland is the same as thinking big is from thinking small. I guess there is always an excuse if you want one, just ask any junkie and he`ll tell you the same thing.

    For now, we`ll throw another turf on the fire. Let the cows out there Madge, they`ll be grand. Forget work. Joe Duffy is on the wireless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBhTyNbJE6A

    The above link is about vertical farming, i.e. growing food in buildings. It starts out in New York with some of the locally produced indoor food initiatives which are quite impressive but if you go to 21 minutes into the video it shows the Netherlands, wow! I new they do impressive there but was not expecting the scale of the production they have going on. The difference between the Netherlands and Ireland is the same as thinking big is from thinking small. I guess there is always an excuse if you want one, just ask any junkie and he`ll tell you the same thing.

    For now, we`ll throw another turf on the fire. Let the cows out there Madge, they`ll be grand. Forget work. Joe Duffy is on the wireless.

    I love this forum.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBhTyNbJE6A

    The above link is about vertical farming, i.e. growing food in buildings. It starts out in New York with some of the locally produced indoor food initiatives which are quite impressive but if you go to 21 minutes into the video it shows the Netherlands, wow! I new they do impressive there but was not expecting the scale of the production they have going on. The difference between the Netherlands and Ireland is the same as thinking big is from thinking small. I guess there is always an excuse if you want one, just ask any junkie and he`ll tell you the same thing.

    For now, we`ll throw another turf on the fire. Let the cows out there Madge, they`ll be grand. Forget work. Joe Duffy is on the wireless.

    If you think forgetting work involves throwing the cows out then you're badly misinformed....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPWLSVn0ko
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv3hSNhRaNU

    The above documentaries explain why agricultural subsidies must end in the EU. They both raise the issue of cheap European food flooding the African market and when African farmers can`t make a living in Africa, they join the migrant march to Europe. It makes sense to end subsidies, and the subsidies will end or be severely curtailed whether Irish farmers like it or not. I have heard Irish farmers assert that the solution is much bigger commercial dairy farms.

    Such farms may have their place but should that be the future of Irish farming? I think not! Again I allude to Africa, where they have belatedly realized that it is not a good idea to have economies in which they "use what they do not produce and produce what they do not use." Even at present, Ireland produces far more milk and beef than it can use and it does not produce an awful lot of the food which could be produced here. How sustainable it that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Here`s a thought for lazy farmers. Why not just plant a variety of fruit trees. They`ll look after themselves and never mind EU rules and specifications - if there`s a downturn in the economy and food becomes scarce, people will be glad of any fruit thats available. Depending on trade for food security is foolish. During good times when foreign sourced food is cheap and available, imperfect Irish fruit that does not meet specifications can be used for feeding pigs. Besides, there may be a grant for planting trees.


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