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The Ashes 2019

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  • #1082
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    I believe they're giving the anchor role to Isa Guha, he appears to be a victim of the quest for diversity. I think it's the wrong call, he had a few years left in him and will be missed by many.

    I don’t mind Isa, she’s good in fact but she neither has the tv experience or playing achievements and playing experience of those she will replace. Whatever about tv experience I suppose but to be fûcking out Botham and Gower for her... that’s just piss poor and the viewer suffers.


  • #1083
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    According to the express

    The broadcaster is also planning to introduce more women to their coverage and push on Ian Ward and Rob Key. Stuart Broad is also expected to make a fine pundit once he retires.

    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/cricket/1178232/Sir-Ian-Botham-David-Gower-leaving-Sky-Sports-cricket-commentary-punditry-Oval-Ashes-Test

    Ian Ward and Rob key do a lot of presenting for ODI and T20 competitions so it would make sense just on experience alone they get the nod over Isa Guha, who I've never seen present a programme. Maybe they'll make her do the T20 stuff or Womens cricket.


  • #1084
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    According to the express

    The broadcaster is also planning to introduce more women to their coverage and push on Ian Ward and Rob Key. Stuart Broad is also expected to make a fine pundit once he retires.

    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/cricket/1178232/Sir-Ian-Botham-David-Gower-leaving-Sky-Sports-cricket-commentary-punditry-Oval-Ashes-Test

    Ian Ward and Rob key do a lot of presenting for ODI and T20 competitions so it would make sense just on experience alone they get the nod over Isa Guha, who I've never seen present a programme. Maybe they'll make her do the T20 stuff or Womens cricket.

    That's the way it's gone on RTE too - except it's kinda half cocked. You have women pundits commenting on say hurling who've never played the mens game at a high level, so how much value can you put on their 'expert' analysis. But when it comes to the camogie, you won't see or hear a hurler as a pundit because they don't play camogie. I'm all for more women punditry in sports presentation and their analysis of their own games is very welcome but they should stick to that. Of course women commenting as sports journalists or fans is a different matter.

    Apart from that, it was a disappointing show from several of the Aussie batsmen, particularly their openers. Whatever about scoring runs, at minimum they should be able to absorb a good few overs and just occupy the crease. They were getting out far too quickly and putting pressure on 3 & 4.


  • #1085
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    I will miss Gower, his punditry was a bit like his batting, elegant, laid back, but very effective.


  • #1086
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    I understand the decision. I felt Botham was too over biased and Gower was boring although had a decent sense of humour.

    Nasser, Ath and Bunble would be my favs. I'd prefer Ali Mitchell over Isa although she's not bad. I like Key. He'll do well. Ward is a good presenter. I have listened to Broad do a few slots and he'll certainly do well. Comes across as a natural commentator and has the voice for it.


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  • #1087
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Stevieluvsye wrote: »
    I understand the decision. I felt Botham was too over biased and Gower was boring although had a decent sense of humour.

    Nasser, Ath and Bunble would be my favs. I'd prefer Ali Mitchell over Isa although she's not bad. I like Key. He'll do well. Ward is a good presenter. I have listened to Broad do a few slots and he'll certainly do well. Comes across as a natural commentator and has the voice for it.

    Bumble is fantastic, entertaining, totally affable yet knowledgeable, speaking of knowledge Atherton is like an encyclopedia knows the game inside out, especially insightful I’ve met the guy a couple of times and found him to be in real life as he is on tv...


  • #1088
    Portsalon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    I see that The Sun, true to form, has published a very insensitive story about a family tragedy involving Stokes's mother back in New Zealand 31 years ago. :(

    The predictable deluge of outrage has come from the usual suspects.

    From the curious (as I was) this is it.


  • #1089
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    I was curious too and looked it up. I thought it very shoddy journalism, and completely unnecessary. Still, The Sun couldn't be any lower in my opinion even before today.


  • #1090
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I'm curious but I'm not looking it up.. screw the Sun


  • #1091
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    riffmongous wrote: »
    I'm curious but I'm not looking it up.. screw the Sun

    His step brother and step sister where both murdered before he was born. (Murder/suicide)

    Disgraceful journalism and why on earth this is in the public's interest is beyond me.

    ****ebags of the highest order


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  • #1092
    harpsman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭harpsman


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    That's the way it's gone on RTE too - except it's kinda half cocked. You have women pundits commenting on say hurling who've never played the mens game at a high level, so how much value can you put on their 'expert' analysis. But when it comes to the camogie, you won't see or hear a hurler as a pundit because they don't play camogie. I'm all for more women punditry in sports presentation and their analysis of their own games is very welcome but they should stick to that. Of course women commenting as sports journalists or fans is a different matter.

    Apart from that, it was a disappointing show from several of the Aussie batsmen, particularly their openers. Whatever about scoring runs, at minimum they should be able to absorb a good few overs and just occupy the crease. They were getting out far too quickly and putting pressure on 3 & 4.
    Agree totally-BBC are same. Seem to moving towards a woman on every panel. Ive started switching off when I see it. These women have never played at the level theyre analysing so theyve no more right to be on than a very good amateur player. If its a panel of journos then yes, have women on based on merit. I like women presenters-i prefer Joanne Cantwell on the GAA than Michael Bland Lester, and I think Gabby Yorath is good too.

    at the risk of getting shot, I just dont like the sound of a womens voice on commentary-too shrill. I just cant relax listening to one.


  • #1093
    Portsalon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    harpsman wrote: »
    Agree totally-BBC are same. Seem to moving towards a woman on every panel. Ive started switching off when I see it. These women have never played at the level theyre analysing so theyve no more right to be on than a very good amateur player. If its a panel of journos then yes, have women on based on merit. I like women presenters-i prefer Joanne Cantwell on the GAA than Michael Bland Lester, and I think Gabby Yorath is good too.

    at the risk of getting shot, I just dont like the sound of a womens voice on commentary-too shrill. I just cant relax listening to one.

    I really like Isa Guha and think that she's an excellent cricket commentator. Certainly she's light years ahead of some of the complete gobsh1tes who commentate with her on the IPL.

    But I'd have preferred Sky to have gone with Ebony Rainford Brent who, whenever I heard her, was a cracking analyst and excellent commentator, although possibly too well qualified for the job!


  • #1094
    BOHtox
    Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    There's no ODI series this ashes? That's a shame. Was always a nice way to finish it.


  • #1095
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,972 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    No time for that, the world cup took up half the summer.


  • #1096
    Anjobe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭Anjobe


    Australia are back in July next year for 3 T20s and 3 ODIs - https://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/19496/australia-in-england-2020


  • #1097
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,729 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Portsalon wrote: »
    I see that The Sun, true to form, has published a very insensitive story about a family tragedy involving Stokes's mother back in New Zealand 31 years ago. :(

    The predictable deluge of outrage has come from the usual suspects.

    From the curious (as I was) this is it.

    Disgraceful journalism, this is not quite as bad as the Gareth Thomas situation where a journalist told his parents he had HIV before he had the chance to do so himself, but still utterly disrespectful!


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