Originally Posted by Faugheen
So you’re going back on your bollocks that the derbies have been ‘destroyed by player protocols’? Good to know.
If the big players aren’t playing every week then fringe players get the chance to play and make their mark. You’ve been pinching yourself with excitement over Ronan Kelleher but he wouldn’t have a chance if we didn’t have the player management systems in place and we had Cronin playing every week.
Do you want younger lads getting a chance or do you want the big players playing every week? You’ve argued for both cases in the last couple of hours.
Again, you keep arguing for the sake of arguing and it’s got to the point whether you don’t know if you want one thing or the other.
The whole argument was in regards to moving abroad in conjunction with central deals. Somebody said Irish rugby would die if they didn’t perform in the pro 14. Cc players are playing 8 or 9 games in it so how is that.
But as people like yourself love to say the player will break through if good enough. And Kelleher is quite clearly good enough, I’m not pinching myself I’m just living in reality, the lad is clearly a player. Meanwhile you live in a world where vdf is better than Leavy. Ya sure
In an ideal world Cronin would be munsters starting hooker as scannell is bang average. But What are you talking about me arguing for both, I’m saying many of the big players are the big cc contracts I’m saying should be shifted or at least challenged to perform. Not allowed dabble in and out.
But no they are mollycoddled on great gigs while others get shafted. I don’t want some of them playing if they aren’t performing. And how can some prove performance if they aren’t playing? And how can others prove themselves if they get dropped for a big name in the big matches regardless of form.. i wouldn’t have some of the big names in there. Some pick themselves. Some of the young lads aren’t ready. Stander, Murray, there’s no alternatives really. But that’s the crux, does that then guarantee them an Irish contract. The chicken and egg of Irish rugby imo.
I don’t agree with it, the best players at that moment should be playing. Larmour, Conway against NZ. It’s a simple concept which I understand you and many if not most don’t agree with. But we should stop wondering why we fail at world cups then.